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Live tweets from 1st Twin Peaks shootout trial
WacoTrib ^ | 10/11/2017

Posted on 10/11/2017 9:51:09 AM PDT by Elderberry

Tribune-Herald staff writer Tommy Witherspoon is live-tweeting from inside the courtroom in the trial of Jacob Carrizal, the first biker to be prosecuted for his alleged role in the May 17, 2015, Twin Peaks shootout.

Jury selection is underway, and opening statements are expected to be given this afternoon.

Nine people were killed and dozens injured in the melee between rival biker groups the Bandidos and Cossacks.

The judge and attorneys are talking to prospective jurors individually now. These are the ones who asked not to speak publicly about issues.

The judge is talking to the parties in chambers. They might begin calling in potential jurors who didn't want to talk about issues in public

Her last question: "Will each of you promise to give Jake Carrizal the fair trial he deserves and has been waiting so long to get?"

Gotro is asking each of the 145 or so on the panel if they will follow the law.

Gotro said a jury is allowed to disregard evidence if it finds the evidence was illegally obtained.

Gotro is asking the panel about items searched and seized without probable cause.

The gun discussion is ongoing. Gotro has really got the panel talking now, with comments on all sides of the issue.

Many say there are too many guns but they aren't comfortable with the government seizing guns from lawful owners.

Now she's got the panel in a 2nd Amendment discussion, asking if there are too many guns and if they fear the government will take them.

Gotro is saying that "technicalities" that people often chide defense attorneys for exploiting are actually important constitutional rights.

Gotro asked why someone would lie to a police officer.

Gotro is talking about the unreliability of eyewitness testimony and reasons why it can be flawed. One juror said Twin Peaks served alcohol.

Gotro is warning jurors against what she called confirmation bias, having formed an opinion and only listening to evidence that supports it.

She is asking if witnesses, including police officers, always tell the truth. One juror said it is unlikely a police officer would lie

Gotro is picking up her voir dire where she left off Tuesday evening. She is asking why defendants might not take the stand.

The parties have agreed to proceed without the missing juror, but the judge ordered deputies to continue looking for him to execute the writ

The judge told the panel that we can't proceed at this time and recessed the proceedings actually before they started.

The judge issued a writ of attachment for a no-show juror and the judge is recessing the panel until he is located.

Stay tuned. There is never a dull moment around here and you never know what is going to happen next. But you can bet it won't be ordinary.

The jury panel is coming in now and defense attorney Casie Gotro will continue her voir dire examination of the panel.


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KEYWORDS: biker; twinpeaks; waco
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To: Elderberry

I don’t see how Jack Smith was much of a rebuttal witness.


141 posted on 11/08/2017 11:56:21 AM PST by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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To: PapaBear3625

Difference is the gangsters supporters here support the gangs.


142 posted on 11/08/2017 7:09:38 PM PST by TexasGator (Z)
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To: Elderberry

“He said the Bandidos are an outlaw motorcycle club but not criminal. He said it is like outlaw country music.”

ROTFLMAO!


143 posted on 11/08/2017 7:12:26 PM PST by TexasGator (Z)
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To: TexasGator

“Not buying the official story” is not the same thing as supporting gangs.


144 posted on 11/09/2017 3:41:18 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (Big governent is attractive to those who think that THEY will be in control of it.)
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To: PapaBear3625

Which story do you buy into in?

1. Cops say they saved lives.

2. Bikers say cops saved lives.


145 posted on 11/09/2017 7:22:15 AM PST by TexasGator (Z)
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The jury is beginning it deliberations now.
12:50 PM - 9 Nov 2017


146 posted on 11/09/2017 10:52:30 AM PST by Elderberry
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To: TexasGator
How about this option:

Cops would have saved more lives (at least the 4 that they shot to be specific) if, instead of waiting in the shadows for something to happen, they were out in the open to PREVENT anything from happening.

147 posted on 11/09/2017 11:38:55 AM PST by 2nd amendment mama (Self Defense is a Basic Human Right!)
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The jury in the Carrizal case has been deliberating three hours now. 4:02 PM - 9 Nov 2017

The only contact they have had is to ask for more copies of the court's charge and to get their lunch. They have sent no other notes. 4:04 PM - 9 Nov 2017

148 posted on 11/09/2017 2:07:11 PM PST by Elderberry
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To: 2nd amendment mama

They were out in the open. In fact, a Cossack told his buddies that no way would the bandidos pull anything with all the cops there.


149 posted on 11/09/2017 2:18:38 PM PST by TexasGator (Z)
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To: 2nd amendment mama

“How about this option:”

How about quit defending the biker gangs!


150 posted on 11/09/2017 2:21:38 PM PST by TexasGator (Z)
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The parties returned to the courtroom after a note from the jury. 4:50 PM - 9 Nov 2017

The jury wants to see the dash cam video from Waco Police officer Michael Bucher's vehicle. 4:53 PM - 9 Nov 2017

The judge is making arrangements for the jury to watch the video in the jury room instead of returning to the courtroom to watch it. 4:54 PM - 9 Nov 2017

The jury watched the video and returned the laptop to the court after about 45 minutes. 6:08 PM - 9 Nov 2017

There has been no word from the jury but the court staff just arrived with Rudy's barbecue for the jury's dinner. We are still here. 7:37 PM - 9 Nov 2017

151 posted on 11/09/2017 5:53:58 PM PST by Elderberry
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To: Elderberry

Thanks for the up-date,,,,,,,


152 posted on 11/09/2017 6:21:15 PM PST by piroque ("In times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act")
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To: TexasGator

Where have you seen the words that I’m defending the biker “gangs”? I’m not! I’m criticizing the cops for allowing the violence to start so they had an excuse to shoot at least 4 people!


153 posted on 11/09/2017 7:24:13 PM PST by 2nd amendment mama (Self Defense is a Basic Human Right!)
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To: 2nd amendment mama

“Where have you seen the words that I’m defending the biker “gangs”? I’m not! I’m criticizing the cops for allowing the violence to start so they had an excuse to shoot at least 4 people!”

ROTFLMAO!

You again defend the biker gangs by laying fault on the cops when you should be laying fault on the biker gangs.

DUH!!!!!!!!!!!!


154 posted on 11/09/2017 7:31:08 PM PST by TexasGator (Z)
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There is a note from the jury. The judge took the lawyers into his office, so we don’t know if it is a verdict or a question from the jury
9:24 PM - 9 Nov 2017


155 posted on 11/09/2017 7:31:39 PM PST by Elderberry
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The jury told Judge Matt Johnson that it is deadlocked on all three counts. The judge instructed the jury to continue deliberations. 9:37 PM - 9 Nov 2017

The note also said, "Mr. P indicated he has personal experience with the Cossacks and his opinion won't change." 9:38 PM - 9 Nov 2017

156 posted on 11/09/2017 7:40:57 PM PST by Elderberry
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The jury just sent out another note that says they want to discontinue deliberations. The judge intends to sequester them until tomorrow. 10:06 PM - 9 Nov 2017

The note says some members are becoming extremely animated. 10:07 PM - 9 Nov 2017

The judge's response to the jury says they can continue to deliberate or be sequestered at an undisclosed hotel. 10:08 PM - 9 Nov 2017

157 posted on 11/09/2017 8:12:58 PM PST by Elderberry
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The deputy is back with a note from the jury. The lawyers are meeting with the judge. Will see if the jury will keep it up or go to hotel. 10:29 PM - 9 Nov 2017

Jury sees they need to sleep on it. They asked the judge if they can call family to tell them they are OK. 10:36 PM - 9 Nov 2017

They also ask if they can make arrangements for fresh clothes and medication. 10:37 PM - 9 Nov 2017

The jury, plus the two alternates, are back in the jury box. 10:38 PM - 9 Nov 2017

The judge said jury can make one phone call in the presence of the jury and only one phone call. Jurors appear very solemn. 10:39 PM - 9 Nov 2017

158 posted on 11/09/2017 8:39:37 PM PST by Elderberry
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To: Elderberry

Thanks for all your effort.


159 posted on 11/09/2017 8:53:31 PM PST by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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To: TexasGator

So, in your mind, all cops can do no wrong and all bikers can do nothing right. You’re a total a$$!!!


160 posted on 11/10/2017 4:57:36 AM PST by 2nd amendment mama (Self Defense is a Basic Human Right!)
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