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Vanity: There has been essentially no new news about the Vegas shooter in days. Why?
Me | 10/8/2017 | Me

Posted on 10/08/2017 5:50:40 PM PDT by RooRoobird20

There has been no new news for days about the mass shooting in Vegas. It feels like the case has already gone cold. Do you think law enforcement is keeping big news from us? I find it amazing that there is virtually no news on this story anymore.


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To: fso301

Using the picture on the billboard will help jar people’s memories. Even a member of our Bible study who go on lots and lots of cruises said this morning they remembered sitting close to him at a “captain’s dinner”. We’re going to look through pictures this afternoon.

FBI may get flooding with lots of insignificant material.


101 posted on 10/08/2017 7:05:06 PM PDT by hoosiermama (When you open your heart to patriotism, there is no room for prejudice.DJT)
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To: Jamestown1630
I think there may be ‘twists’ to this. For some reason, I don’t think Paddock intended to die.

Yes and no. With all his guns and gear out in the open, the moment he broke the windows, he had to have known the jig was up. There was no turning back. The falling glass would be reported and security would come to investigate.

102 posted on 10/08/2017 7:05:24 PM PDT by fso301
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To: raybbr

This is going to be a bit long, but bear with it, it might explain.

As I’ve posted on here, I worked for law enforcement for many years in a civilian role. I was a dispatcher, dispatch supervisor, part time evidence officer, system administrator over the numerous computer systems at the department and also at times spokesperson and media liaison. I’m very familiar with investigative procedures and with what is released to the public, why it is release and when. It was a small but very active department.

Years ago we received a call about a missing woman. We took the information and our investigator started working the case. She had disappeared without a trace.

Within about 4 days we knew what had happened. She had been murdered. We knew who had done it. The problem was we had NO hard evidence and NO body. You don’t have a murder case without a body. It would never get past the grand jury level.

So, we kept telling the media we had no leads and no suspects. That was not true at all, but if we said otherwise the suspect would probably rabbit and we’d never solve the case.

We put heavy surveillance on the suspect so that we knew where he was 24/7. We kept telling the media it was maybe a dead end case.

Two weeks later the suspect, feeling like he had got away with it, made a fatal mistake. He went and visited the body. We arrested him on the spot. We would have never found the body otherwise as it was very well hidden. Case closed. If we hadn’t kept quiet and convinced the suspect he got away with it he would not have gone to the body (he admitted as much in interviews after the arrest).

So, there are times when law enforcement must withhold information during an investigation, for the good of the investigation. It’s a fairly simple concept.


103 posted on 10/08/2017 7:07:50 PM PDT by TruBluKentuckian
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To: Paladin2

LOL

Wire at the hotel...


104 posted on 10/08/2017 7:09:41 PM PDT by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wH-pk2vZG2M)
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To: RooRoobird20
There isn't much positive I have to say about the MSM, but I think many members of it realize there is a copy-cat element to these shootings, and perhaps they don't want to inspire anyone. There have been other mass shootings, such as the Batman premier, when the press have been admirably low-key.
105 posted on 10/08/2017 7:10:16 PM PDT by utahagen (but but)
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To: moehoward

That’s utter nonsense.

Again, provide PROOF that he was an anti-Trump liberal.

I’m not saying he wasn’t. I’m saying that at this time we have no evidence to support it.


106 posted on 10/08/2017 7:11:21 PM PDT by TruBluKentuckian
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To: RooRoobird20
There was a time when the FBI would stage a raid on someone's house and business, carry out truckloads of files, computers, whatever, then...nothing. But you knew they were hard at work and the outcome would be decisive, whatever it was. Like with the corruption prosecution of county scumbags in Cuyahoga Co years ago. You heard nothing for a year or two, then an indictment, trial, conviction and sentencing like implacable glacial movement.

Now, no one in his right mind would trust the FBI to play out that time honored scenario.

Now, silence from the FBI most likely means some kind of corrupt coverup like the Clinton-Comey deal is being cut.

107 posted on 10/08/2017 7:12:00 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: Redwood71

I so agree with you.

Wondering if they have done an autopsy of shooter’s brain, or if the self-inflicted gun shot through the mouth destroyed any chance for a diagnostic image of the brain. Did he have a brain tumor? There is so much to study.

There was a report that his self imposed *scrub* of years and years of his life, purposely leaving next to nothing as a life trail, when put together with his compulsions to play eight to ten hours a day at gambling, treating it like a *job*, and his understanding of “math”, could make him a candidate of a high functioning case for Asburger. (No clue how that word is spelled, btw..)

The guy was not normal and hasn’t been for years. The father who was diagnosed as a psychopath and this guy himself totally a mental case. It could all be that simple a tumor?


108 posted on 10/08/2017 7:12:24 PM PDT by RitaOK (Viva Christo Rey! Public Education/Academia are the farm team for more Marxists coming... infinitum.)
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To: TruBluKentuckian

Been thinking along these lines.


109 posted on 10/08/2017 7:13:39 PM PDT by TheDon (MAGA!)
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To: CrazyIvan; raiderboy
“Btw why did they wait and hour to blow the door?”

Had he not offed himself and continued shooting, they might have rushed the door.

However, there was no shooting, they didn't know he was dead and had to be concerned that he might try to make a run for it in which case they needed to stay put with weapons trained on the doors.

After a certain amount of time they figure he isn't coming out and since there hasn't been any shooting for some time, he is either dead, or still alive with his hand on a bomb trigger waiting for them to enter the room, or he is dead and the room is booby trapped.

110 posted on 10/08/2017 7:15:42 PM PDT by fso301
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To: RitaOK

Ya do all that then bring out a laser scanner. It will get it all, recreate the room in 3-D, obtaining data of near exact dimensions/angles including every item in the room and can be viewed from any angle, etc.


111 posted on 10/08/2017 7:16:52 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: TruBluKentuckian

Unless it involves immediate public safety, law enforcement does not have any obligation to tell us anything. It’s an ongoing investigation, let them investigate.

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Recall the Boston Marathon bomber. The police shut down the city. They told people to stay in their homes. They cordoned off the area where they thought the bomber was hiding and thousands of cops searched for a day. And found nothing.

Meanwhile, a homeowner noticed the tarp covering the boat in his back yard had been moved. He called the police. They found the bomber hiding in the boat.


112 posted on 10/08/2017 7:16:58 PM PDT by Flick Lives
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To: Vermont Lt

That whole video streaming/not, cameras on/off story has quietly disappeared.


113 posted on 10/08/2017 7:18:42 PM PDT by Paladin2 (No spelchk nor wrong word auto substition on mobile dev. Please be intelligent and deal with it....)
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To: RooRoobird20
Forensics takes time if done correctly. It's not odd they're not talking when you consider that they have to fingerprint every weapon, every part within each weapon, each magazine, and each round within each magazine.

Put a unique identifier on each little thing and someone has to sign for each item when it changes hands which means a lot of people checking the list of what they're receiving prior to signing for it. Everything has to be carefully tracked from the point where it was found to where it is tested, then to where it's to be stored.

Every little thing has to be labeled, where it is from detailed (each round as to which magazine it was in and so on to tie it all together), and every time it changes hands someone has to double check they're getting everything listed as being given to them then sign a receipt in order to keep a chain of custody.

I also wouldn't be surprised if the NVPD, for a number of good historical reasons, double checks or insists on being present whenever an FBI person is anywhere near the evidence which slows things down still more.

Then there's what they vacuum up from the floor in the room and sift through along with hundreds of interviews of witnesses. Often there's a lot of going back to one witness after talking to another, too, since there are apparent or real contradictions. Contradictions that have to be taken into account and explained.

The interviews (in my humble, limited, experience) is where a lot gets swept under the rug in criminal cases, just don't enter the contradictory interviews into evidence. In small time criminal cases it avoids potentially exculpatory information that could influence a plea bargain. With things like Las Vegas YouTube & Facebook are deleting video interviews that contradict the MSM/democrat party line and the MSM ignore such interviews to make it difficult for anyone in the NVPD, FBI, etc., who wants to do a solid investigation and put out the whole truth.

It's not strange that the NVPD and/or FBI aren't saying much. It is strange how when so many people have video evidence that the media across the board are quite obviously suppressing information to push their agenda rather than playing their old game of showing then having their paid "expert" dismiss widely available information.

JMHo at the moment, subject to change based on further information, YMMV, etc.

114 posted on 10/08/2017 7:19:55 PM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory !!)
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To: TruBluKentuckian

That is a great reason to keep things close to the police vest. Good ending to that case.


115 posted on 10/08/2017 7:21:02 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: fso301

Seems like an awful lot of guns for the time he could have expected to have, then.


116 posted on 10/08/2017 7:21:03 PM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: Vermont Lt
In two weeks no one will care. Some NFL player will take a dump on the field and the world will go crazy.

Funny. And way too close to the truth.

117 posted on 10/08/2017 7:22:21 PM PDT by x
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To: Jamestown1630
Seems like an awful lot of guns for the time he could have expected to have, then.

Like a lot of amateur preppers stockpiling guns never really realizing that they can only use one effectively at a time and if they have to move quickly, they can only carry one, or two with them.

118 posted on 10/08/2017 7:25:34 PM PDT by fso301
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To: JonPreston

I learned that the note in his room actually was a doodle pad of advanced calculations to better help him spray a crowd of 20,000 people below his window.
= = =

Totally unneeded.

Just fire a few rounds for ‘effect’, then adjust.

Kentucky windage (unless Kentucky is now a microaggression).


119 posted on 10/08/2017 7:28:22 PM PDT by Scrambler Bob (Brought to you from Turtle Island, otherwise known as 'So-Called North America')
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To: USMCPOP
He got a degree in business administration in 1977 at Cal State Northridge.

Thanks. I missed that entirely.

And it looks like the local LA stations found somebody who knew him growing up.

He said he was a normal 8-12 year old.

120 posted on 10/08/2017 7:28:32 PM PDT by x
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