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No... Zero was not the worst President in US history. That distinction belongs to Woodrow Wilson. No one else is even close.
1 posted on 10/04/2017 12:26:12 PM PDT by NRx
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It had terrible results for the U.S.


2 posted on 10/04/2017 12:29:13 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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What If the United States Had Stayed out of the Great War?

In Europe Germany would be in the driver seat - oh, wait - never mind.


3 posted on 10/04/2017 12:31:33 PM PDT by Jolla
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I’d say that the two worst were Woodrow Wilson and FDR. I agree with you about Wilson, but FDR did terrible damage too, with the Great Depression and socialist government. There were major problems with the Second World War, too. Read Evelyn Waugh’s “Sword of Honour” trilogy.


4 posted on 10/04/2017 12:32:34 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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tl;dr

If we’d stayed out of the war until one side won, maybe WWII would have been the US-Japan conflict.


5 posted on 10/04/2017 12:32:45 PM PDT by sparklite2 (I'm less interested in the rights I have than the liberties I can take.)
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To: NRx
No... Zero was not the worst President in US history. That distinction belongs to Woodrow Wilson. No one else is even close.

Abraham Lincoln. He not only triggered the growth of the Federal Behemoth, he forever altered the relationship between the States and the Federal Government.

Oh, and he killed directly and indirectly nearly 3 million people, as well as impoverished regions for multiple generations.

6 posted on 10/04/2017 12:43:33 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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If the Allies, led by France and Britain, had not won a total victory, there would have been no punitive peace like that completed at Versailles, no stab-in-the-back allegations by resentful Germans, and thus no rise, much less triumph, of Hitler and the Nazis. The next world war, with its 50 million deaths, would probably not have occurred.

With Lenin and Stalin ruling the USSR and the Prussians ruling the rest of Europe, there is no reason to think that the rest of the 20th Century would be any less violent. Germany and the USSR still would have inevitably gone to war. Modern weaponry, including nuclear weapons and ICBM's still would have been developed.

10 posted on 10/04/2017 12:49:57 PM PDT by iowamark
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Good one!

Wilson also made another remarkable speech a bit later in life that changed my opinion of him considerably! No easy task.

As even POTUS.45 Trump, I suspect, now realizes the man in the arena may very well be not able to live up to his desired intentions—but it’s the system not the man!

Blogged it several years ago...some of my postings are still out there in cyberspace since 1997...even though most of the sites, forums, bull boards,messageboards, and later “blogs” eventually went belyup.

(The Wayback Machine can sometimes resurrect them, I find.

Gunny G AMERICAN (NOT AINO)
*****


13 posted on 10/04/2017 12:51:08 PM PDT by gunnyg ("A Constitution changed from Freedom, can never be restored; Liberty, once lost, is lost forever...)
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bfl


16 posted on 10/04/2017 12:54:30 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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The Lodge Reservations to the League of Nations:

http://spiritualpilgrim.net/07_Special-Documents/Historical-Documents/1919_Lodge%27s-reservations-concerning-the-Versailles-Treaty.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lodge_Reservations


17 posted on 10/04/2017 12:56:36 PM PDT by iowamark
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How many of our current problems were caused by the end at the British and the French sliced up the Ottoman Empire after the war? Imagine a world without Saudi Arabia, Iraq or Syria as they are currently configured because Germany beat France.


18 posted on 10/04/2017 12:59:27 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (The Whig Party died when it fled the great fight of its century. Ditto for the Republicans now.)
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What If the United States Had Stayed out of the Great War?

I sure wish we had.


19 posted on 10/04/2017 1:04:08 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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The worst ever was Jefferson Davis. He blew our sacred chances and kept us chained to the Yankee oppressors for over 150 year. /hell yeah I’m kidding, but some of you still sound like you just need to let it go /donning asbestos underwear.


21 posted on 10/04/2017 1:07:04 PM PDT by JusPasenThru (America has two types of fascists: fascists and antifascists.)
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The author needs to review German history and rewrite the article...


23 posted on 10/04/2017 1:11:42 PM PDT by TexasGator
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Given the deep wide and continual terrible effects of the Wilson presidency eventually he will take the crown as the worst president in our history.


26 posted on 10/04/2017 1:21:47 PM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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Are you suggesting he didn’t make the world safe for Democracy?

(snicker, snicker)

He and LBJ were the worst, but Woodrow had a higher killed and wounded body count.


27 posted on 10/04/2017 1:23:10 PM PDT by cgbg (Hidden behind the social justice warrior mask is corruption and sexual deviance.)
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But I predict that Trump will be no more willing or able than Barack Obama to break the spell Wilson cast on the nation 100 years ago.

Indeed. Fed.gov and our banking/media/deep state elites are on autopilot.

28 posted on 10/04/2017 1:24:04 PM PDT by PGR88
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Ping


30 posted on 10/04/2017 1:32:20 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: NRx

Dunno.
There is FDR and LBJ.
Though FDR served under Wilson, and LBJ served under FDR!


39 posted on 10/04/2017 1:47:10 PM PDT by Little Ray (Freedom Before Security!)
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fascinating to think about if we had stayed out of the war what would have happened. For some who think that providence drives history you could say WWI led to WWII which lead to the creation of Israel...but I’m just saying’...


41 posted on 10/04/2017 1:47:44 PM PDT by Cannonball Bill
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What if - is nearly always a waste of time in my book.

1. The what if did not happen, ending with the actual history of the events.

2. What might have been i a form of speculation. and in no way can be certain of exactly how each of the variables would have gone, because to go one way or the other always depends on more factors than the speculators either entertain or know for certain how they would go.

These topics are good for writing historical fiction, and not a whole lot else.


43 posted on 10/04/2017 1:49:49 PM PDT by Wuli
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