Never reaching the end ...
Posted on 09/18/2017 5:12:01 PM PDT by randita
SUICIDE IS NEVER THE ANSWER.
Every suicide is a tragic loss to our nation and those impacted. The family and friends left behind who must deal with the aftermath of the event and put those events in perspective, may in some cases never know why the service member or Veteran took their life. Suicide is NEVER the answer. Please reach out and ask for help. We need you.
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Oddly I have noticed suicide seems to run in some families. I cannot believe it could be- but wonder if it is possible there is a suicide gene?
Never quit on life.
https://youtu.be/TIirRogdQuI
The thing is many veterans that commit suicide don’t see it that way. Some cannot deal or process with things they saw and did. Some feel like they cannot live with those things in their head, and they cannot get them out of there.
I’m no expert but I know from my own experience that depression runs in the family. Perhaps untreated depression eventually leads to suicide. A Psychiatrist would know better.
I feel deeply for all of our veterans, i really mean that.
Just posting what i know from someone who was in the bush and saw it.
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are you aware that ecstasy/mollie/mmda has been approved by the fda as a ptsd therapy in the last few weeks. They called it a game changer. not that am a big proponent of taking drugs but hell if it works. anything to pull them from the brink.
My dad was just talking to me about this a week ago! He’s for sure on board with this.
Just look at the Hemingway family.
It’s a complex topic. Some messages and treatments seem to be effective with some people, but counter-productive with others.
Sadly, I’d say our understanding of human psychology is very poor — basically at the same point as medical knowledge in the middle ages, when clumsy or misguided treatments were about as likely to be harmful as helpful.
Also sadly, I fear that political correctness will retard progress in psychology.
If you were shown evidence from respected medical researchers that the brains of suicide victims were known to have a serious chemical imbalance...a physiological disorder...would you have the same attitude?
Suicide is only the beginning of that which has no end.
I served during the Vietnam era but *not* in SE Asia.A couple of buddies *did* serve there,one a Marine who was in Khe Sahn during "Tet".
They told stories of fear,anger and remorse that still ring in my ears.Fear of death...anger at watching their buddies die...and remorse at having to kill others.
IMO that could be,for some at least,a recipe for depression of a magnitude that I cannot imagine.
I'm no combat veteran...and I'm no shrink...just sayin'.
If you’re a vet, contact these guys, they are the best in the business. Vet on vet counseling.
Likewise for a confirmed ALS or similar dread-disease diagnosis that portends nothing but misery for all involved.
I understand that's blasphemy for some, but, again, I see validity in the argument.
I thought about that but was unsure about tying up a line or whatever. thank you though.
Drat! None in FLA. This looks like a good source though Tammy so maybe they’ll be coming to FLA soon. I’ll reach out and see if they have a contact here.
depends on the effect the imbalance has on impairing judgement. In medicine there is a process for declaring someone incompetent.
I assume except for that rare occasion you agree with me.
Yeah, I don’t know. I just pray to not be in that position.
I think think, on balance, it’s a sin, but if you are going not be yourself and be a tremendous burden on others due to an illness like Alzheimer’s, I think of this:
“Greater love has no one than this: to lay down one’s life for one’s friends.” John 15:13
Note, I am not a theologian, so I am very willing to admit being wrong on this. It certainly is not the historical belief. But then, we didn’t have science that prolongs life at much suffering back then.
Perhaps the acceptable alternative is to refuse all treatments and die quickly.
Yeah, I don’t know. I just pray to not be in that position.
I think think, on balance, it’s a sin, but if you are going not be yourself and be a tremendous burden on others due to an illness like Alzheimer’s, I think of this:
“Greater love has no one than this: to lay down one’s life for one’s friends.” John 15:13
Note, I am not a theologian, so I am very willing to admit being wrong on this. It certainly is not the historical belief. But then, we didn’t have science that prolongs life at much suffering back then.
Perhaps the acceptable alternative is to refuse all treatments and die quickly.
Consider that Jefferson and Adams both died fifty years to the day after signing the Declaration of Independence. Mark Twain always said he came into the world with Halley's Comet and and would go out with Halley's Comet. There is more to the human mind than anyone could ever fathom. Our ancestors knew that a heartsick person could pine away his or her life.
Through every generation since the dawn of man, with all the foibles and failings of the spirit and all of the philosophers and various other thinkers attempting to explain it, there is not a single thought or emotion anyone could have that hasn't been felt by thousands of others in the past. I cannot comprehend why anyone should believe any problem is insurmountable. As the old adage says, "This too shall pass."
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