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2017 is the worst fall TV season in recent memory
Vox ^ | September 11, 2017 | Todd VanDerWerff

Posted on 09/11/2017 10:58:40 AM PDT by EdnaMode

This is the worst fall for new TV shows in the decade I’ve been a professional TV critic. And it’s hard to find one much worse in all the years I’ve been cognizant of “new fall TV” as a concept, since the late ’80s.

The comedies didn’t make me laugh. The dramas made me roll my eyes. Even with the boom in platforms making new TV, there’s but one show I’d recommend wholeheartedly and a smattering of others that made me say, “There could be something there if they work out the kinks.” The vast, vast majority of the new shows — whether on broadcast or cable or streaming — are just plain bad.

Now, to be sure, there are some heavily anticipated shows I have yet to see. Star Trek: Discovery, for instance, hasn’t sent out screeners to critics. (That CBS All Access is playing so coy with the show isn’t a great sign, but with a major project like this, it’s entirely possible the post-production process is taking longer than usual.) But I’ve still seen the vast majority of new series — and they’re bad.

So when people ask me what new shows they should watch, it takes but a few seconds to say, “Hey, The Deuce is good!” But if they’re not fans of David Simon or James Franco, or if they don’t have HBO, well … ABC’s The Mayor is pretty charming. Fox’s Ghosted has a good enough cast that I guess it should pull itself together eventually. CBS’s S.W.A.T. is certainly ambitious for a remake of an old TV show, even if it’s not all there yet…

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KEYWORDS: fall; networktelevision; networktv; primetime; television; tv
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To: OttawaFreeper

The Rifleman.
Maverick.
Cheyenne.
Sugarfoot.


181 posted on 09/11/2017 1:00:47 PM PDT by YogicCowboy ("I am not entirely on anyone's side, because no one is entirely on mine." - JRRT)
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To: robroys woman; Chode; Tax-chick; Calm_Cool_and_Elected; All
We just dumped directv Thieves and used Antenna TV while deciding what to do.

Found: Roy Rogers, Petticoat Junction, Mr. Ed, Rockford Files, Cannon, The Original Hawaii Five-O, Hazel, Father Knows Best, Flying Nun, I Dream of Jeannie, Green Acres, Bewitched, Barny Miller, Night Court, M*A*S*H, Bonanza, Perry Mason, Twilight Zone and others.

And *!GASP!* THEY USE REAL GUNS (with no sparking lead!) and SMOKE CIGARS, PIPES and CIGARETTS!!!

This crap they put out these days is absurd !!!
hollyweird can't make anything new worth watching and what they do put out is “xxx the 27th” that is even worse than the original crappy movie or show.

BTW We ended up with Cable for 1/4th the price of the dtv Thieves for the same crap PLUS the above Vintage Shows.

It's like being a Kid again;)

182 posted on 09/11/2017 1:01:47 PM PDT by mabarker1 (Progress- the opposite of congress)
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To: morphing libertarian

But not a starship commander, so they do not count him.


183 posted on 09/11/2017 1:01:54 PM PDT by YogicCowboy ("I am not entirely on anyone's side, because no one is entirely on mine." - JRRT)
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To: YogicCowboy

They do some singing on the show and are actually pretty good.


184 posted on 09/11/2017 1:03:20 PM PDT by robroys woman
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To: EdnaMode

The reruns come on after our local news, so sometimes if I am not quick enough, it is on when I come to bed. They tell jokes so stupid I cannot believe someone could actually write that. Then I switch it to something watchable or turn it off.


185 posted on 09/11/2017 1:03:33 PM PDT by Defiant (It's not antifa, it's actually antifafa. Antifa Fascists.)
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To: warsaw44

Oh yeah! The original star trek with completely recreated exterior view shots using computer animation. Love it! I gotta look for twilight zone. One of my all time favorite shows.


186 posted on 09/11/2017 1:04:27 PM PDT by robroys woman
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To: OttawaFreeper

OK, got it. Had Fonzie jumped the shark at that point?


187 posted on 09/11/2017 1:05:01 PM PDT by Defiant (It's not antifa, it's actually antifafa. Antifa Fascists.)
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To: YogicCowboy

They?
https://www.theguardian.com/culture/tvandradioblog/2012/apr/19/star-trek-captain-who-best


188 posted on 09/11/2017 1:06:05 PM PDT by morphing libertarian (Imprison Obama, Clintons, Holder, lynch now.)
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To: angcat

Chuck is batcrap crazy, but I’d hire him.


189 posted on 09/11/2017 1:06:16 PM PDT by Defiant (It's not antifa, it's actually antifafa. Antifa Fascists.)
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To: morphing libertarian

Sisco....yep. Guess they’ll have to change that to first black female. ;)


190 posted on 09/11/2017 1:22:21 PM PDT by 1_Inch_Group (Country Before Party)
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To: txrefugee

Yup. The Nielsen ratings for viewers under 35 is tiny. I think network TV will eventually be sports and reality shows.


191 posted on 09/11/2017 1:37:19 PM PDT by EdnaMode
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To: publius911

My wife might be disappointed. She was a Jag fan, and I have never like tv shows about lawyers.


192 posted on 09/11/2017 1:37:28 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Did voting for Trump for President, make 62+ million of us into Deplorable Racists/Nazis? NO! NADA!)
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To: EdnaMode

I am looking forward to Seal Team, The Brave, and shocking to me Young Sheldon. I never watch BBT, but honestly the previews look funny with Young Sheldon so I’ll give it a shot. 9JKL I will give a shot because I like the actors in it. I agree the rest look weak. I am looking most forward to Chicago Fire......that season finale was incredible and scary......


193 posted on 09/11/2017 1:47:28 PM PDT by napscoordinator (Trump/Hunter, jr for President/Vice President 2016)
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To: Dr. Scarpetta

Hope the return of WILL & GRACE bombs.

I hoped it did to, but they already gave them a second season even before it airs. So we are stuck with it for two years (not that we watch it). But just hearing about it, pisses me off.


194 posted on 09/11/2017 1:51:05 PM PDT by napscoordinator (Trump/Hunter, jr for President/Vice President 2016)
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To: mass55th

Lewis was Inspector Morse’s #2 before Morse retired. Lewis learned everything from Morse. Great show. Many seasons.


195 posted on 09/11/2017 1:51:39 PM PDT by Datom (Still runnin' "Against the Wind.")
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To: EdnaMode

Network scripted TV shows are horrid. At first, I thought it was because at my age, I’ve seen every possible TV trope there is at least one time. But Seinfeld and 30 Rock showed that new comedy is still possible. Then I attributed it to my being out of the age demographic whose eyeballs the sponsors want to attract. Maybe networks are for kids.

Reality TV isn’t bad. The rest of the shows validate the notion that good TV has migrated to cable.


196 posted on 09/11/2017 1:57:35 PM PDT by sparklite2 (I'm less interested in the rights I have than the liberties I can take.)
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To: LSAggie

Thanks for the info on another season of “The Middle”. I had assumed it was completely over. Will set it to record, as I’ll be at a quilting retreat then.


197 posted on 09/11/2017 1:58:08 PM PDT by MayflowerMadam
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To: Artemis Webb
People have forgotten how bad TV was in the old days.

We didn't know any better or expect anything more back then.

In the last few years, there's been some great stuff to watch, a lot of it on premium cable, and it only makes this year's broadcast network fare look worse (not that it isn't bad all by itself).

198 posted on 09/11/2017 2:05:43 PM PDT by x
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To: Dr. Sivana

“Three’s Company” differed as it was a success, and had some great actors (Ritter, Knotts).


Three’s Company was copied from the British series, Man About the House. The differences between the shows was telling. In the original Brit version, the guy was forever tying to bed the girls. The US version feminized that character down to being nearly homosexual so as, I suppose, to avoid offending the puritanical among us.


199 posted on 09/11/2017 2:10:57 PM PDT by sparklite2 (I'm less interested in the rights I have than the liberties I can take.)
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To: Artemis Webb

Three’s Company. Talk about playing the trump card of lousy stupid TV shows. I think Hollywood is completely out of ideas. It had to happen eventually.


200 posted on 09/11/2017 2:23:57 PM PDT by Hardastarboard (Three most annoying words on the internet - "Watch the Video")
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