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Think twice or maybe three times before you call the police with a family problem.
1 posted on 07/16/2017 11:33:33 AM PDT by Pontiac
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Then the van door opened. The Hingham police chief stepped in. They had found Austin; he had shot himself, he told them. As Austin’s mother screamed, the chief offered to call friends or clergy. The couple asked instead to have their son’s dog, his loyal friend, with them.

No, the chief said, according to the couple — we can’t bring a dog in here; it’s against protocol.

This is a sad story that shows just how clueless the police can be.

They are a bunch of script kiddies that get out their protocol books and follow them to the end

And I guess you can’t blame them. If they don’t and something bad happens they will be burned at the stake. Follow protocol and their a$$ is covered. (Sorry folks, S**t happens).

2 posted on 07/16/2017 11:41:59 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.L)
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Think twice or maybe three times before you call the police with a family problem.

From the full article, it was the former girlfriend rather than the family who initially called the police and told them he had a gun.

3 posted on 07/16/2017 11:50:53 AM PDT by Bob (Damn, the democrats haven't been this upset since Republicans freed their slaves.)
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Never call the police on anybody or anything that you wouldn’t want them to kill.


4 posted on 07/16/2017 12:14:10 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Some people consider government to be a necessary evil, others their personal Ponzi scheme.)
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Another snowflake unable to deal with reality in today’s society.


9 posted on 07/16/2017 12:25:12 PM PDT by AlaskaErik (I served and protected my country for 31 years. Progressives spent that time trying to destroy it.)
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The only surprise is that the police didn’t shoot the dog.


10 posted on 07/16/2017 12:27:07 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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No, the chief said, according to the couple — we can’t bring a dog in here; it’s against protocol.


Isn’t proper police protocol to shoot the dog, no matter what else is going on?


11 posted on 07/16/2017 12:28:26 PM PDT by samtheman (As an oil exporter, why would the Russians prefer Trump to Hillary? (Get it or be stupid.))
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This is what happens when people come to accept government killing citizens for no good reason as a normal thing.


14 posted on 07/16/2017 12:33:57 PM PDT by thoughtomator
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Cop h8ters showing up in droves. The usual suspects. Yawn.

CC


15 posted on 07/16/2017 12:34:54 PM PDT by Celtic Conservative (Veni, vidi, Vomui- I came, I saw, I hurled.)
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this could just as easily have been handled by one or two men but we are in an age where every cop on the force has to show up no matter what the case just so they can say "I was there." and get a little blood on their spear...
18 posted on 07/16/2017 12:46:09 PM PDT by Chode (You have all of the resources you are going to have. Abandon your illusions and plan accordingly.)
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Better to call your clergy...if you have any.


20 posted on 07/16/2017 12:53:09 PM PDT by kanawa (Trump Loves a Great Deal)
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Harrison felt certain the police would help her son.

And they did, the minute you let them in he was dead, either suicide or executed by the Police, that’s what they do!


22 posted on 07/16/2017 1:11:07 PM PDT by eyeamok (Idle hands are the Devil's workshop)
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Do I get the impression that some FR readers are blaming the police? The police were called. Their job is to resolve a situation, not to arrive on the scene, listen to a family member say “please go away, you’re not needed” and reply “OK, You’ve got it under control. Call us if you need us.”
Not gonna happen. “Distraught” and “gun” are the keywords here. What do you expect the police to do?

On another note, I hate the “reporter” who wrote this article for two reasons:
Making us read to the end to find out that the kid shot himself,
and for the words “pristine suburban neighborhood ... sprawling Colonials and manicured lawns” which actually mean “You Whiteys have your share of problems too.”


23 posted on 07/16/2017 1:22:32 PM PDT by I want the USA back (Acting consistently in contradiction with one's human nature is de facto evidence of insanity.)
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These are not the Peace Officers of old. Unless you want a dead family member, you need to think long, long, long and hard before calling these “Professionals”. Now, no matter how bad the situation is, involving the police will only make it worse.


32 posted on 07/16/2017 3:01:22 PM PDT by sport
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SOME writers have so confounded society with government, as to leave little or no distinction between them; whereas they are not only different, but have different origins. Society is produced by our wants, and government by our wickedness; the former promotes our happiness POSITIVELY by uniting our affections, the latter NEGATIVELY by restraining our vices. The one encourages intercourse, the other creates distinctions. The first is a patron, the last a punisher.

Society in every state is a blessing, but Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one: for when we suffer, or are exposed to the same miseries BY A GOVERNMENT, which we might expect in a country WITHOUT GOVERNMENT, our calamity is heightened by reflecting that we furnish the means by which we suffer. Government, like dress, is the badge of lost innocence; the palaces of kings are built upon the ruins of the bowers of paradise. For were the impulses of conscience clear, uniform and irresistibly obeyed, man would need no other lawgiver; but that not being the case, he finds it necessary to surrender up a part of his property to furnish means for the protection of the rest; and this he is induced to do by the same prudence which in every other case advises him, out of two evils to choose the least. Wherefore, security being the true design and end of government, it unanswerably follows that whatever form thereof appears most likely to ensure it to us, with the least expense and greatest benefit, is preferable to all others. - Thomas Paine, Common Sense (1776)


35 posted on 07/16/2017 3:10:17 PM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (A press can be “associated,” or a press can be independent. Demand independent presses.)
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So reporters and posters are hating cops again, eh? It probably means Trump v the Russians story is probably dead.


37 posted on 07/16/2017 3:13:57 PM PDT by JonPreston
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I would never call the police with a family problem. The parents of this poor man should have immediately called their attorney and doctor when this situation began to unfold.


38 posted on 07/16/2017 3:27:40 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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I like my local police and think them reasonably well-trained. And from reading stories like this, I’ve learned a bit of wisdom worth considering in tough situations: There are very few situations so bad they can’t be made worse by the addition of a cop.

Clearly this was one of them.


40 posted on 07/16/2017 3:56:13 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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There was no way this was going to end well.

Maybe everything would have been fine if they had left him alone.

I remember when my kids were in high school, there was a couple who broke up and he just left the school and wanted to go for a walk.

All hell broke loose and he was put on a suicide watch and everything.

Fortunately, nothing came of it.


48 posted on 07/16/2017 4:43:53 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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Suicidal young males are not exactly rare these days. Don't police have better methods of handling them?

When someone says he will kill himself if he is backed into a corner, maybe the first response shouldn't be to back him into a corner.

49 posted on 07/16/2017 4:55:04 PM PDT by TChad
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Never call the cops to your house. They will show up.


63 posted on 07/17/2017 8:19:46 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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