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Men on strike: the social changes that caused men to opt out of marriage
winteryknight ^ | 05/03/2017 | Wintery Knight

Posted on 05/19/2017 7:59:58 PM PDT by BJ1

I often encounter “pro-marriage” people while gathering stories for the blog. These pro-marriage people come in two varieties.

On the one end of the spectrum are people like Terrell Clemmons and Jennifer Roback Morse, who understand marriage, but who also understand the social changes that have made marriage unattractive for men. Both Clemmons and Morse have a background in STEM fields, so they are able to understand incentives and tradeoffs. They understand that society has to rollback the changes to education, divorce laws, etc. if they expect men to be interested in marriage again. They understand that men are not just accessories of women, but instead have their own desires, feelings and reasons for marrying.

On the other end of the spectrum are feminist men, who are not able to understand the changing incentives that face men in a world that has evolved under the influence of radical feminism. It is just simpler (less thinking) for these men to accept the radical feminism as a given, and then urge men to “man up”. I think a much better idea would be for the “man up” crowd to realize how marriage has changed, and how the schools and the workplace have changed, then make all of these things more attractive to men. It doesn’t do any good to try to “dare” men into jumping off a cliff. Men aren’t stupid, and they do what is in their own best interests. If the man-up crowd wants younger men to marry, then they need to change the incentives offered to men. And that means changing women first.

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KEYWORDS: genderwars; marriage; single
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I see some posts from what I think are Boomer men and women here that men need to man up and get married. Especially in regard to the rising out of wedlock birth rates and low marriage rates of today's youth. I simply post this for them to consider that if they want things to change, the risk vs. reward thing needs to change too. Men need more out of marriage and need less risk. In the era of Tinder, marriage is not necessary for sex. I'm not endorsing that, I'm just recognizing the facts on the ground. I have been told that there is a woman for every man. Sure, if you assume that a man wants marriage and is willing to take what is being offered to him. Increasingly the answer is no to the first. And if not no to the first, it's no to the second.

Here are people smarter than me explaining it. Also if you click the link, you will see a map that shows how single women voted. Conservative men outnumber conservative women.

1 posted on 05/19/2017 7:59:58 PM PDT by BJ1
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Countdown until I-finnegan posts feminist shaming language begins now. 10..9..8..7..6..5.......


2 posted on 05/19/2017 8:02:40 PM PDT by Tailback
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To: BJ1

These men are feminist tools.


3 posted on 05/19/2017 8:03:36 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: BJ1

Any American male who today wants to marry or has married an American female is nucking futs.


4 posted on 05/19/2017 8:12:24 PM PDT by nickedknack
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“While the feminist movement may originally have been about equal respect for both sexes, what it has morphed into, she argues, is female privilege.”


5 posted on 05/19/2017 8:14:59 PM PDT by BeauBo
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To: nickedknack
I went to the Philippines. 😀
6 posted on 05/19/2017 8:17:43 PM PDT by Mark17 (Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. In the beginning GOD....And the rest, as they say, is history)
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To: BJ1

It’s safer and the odds are better for any man if he plays Russian Roulette with a half loaded revolver than if he marries an American woman.


7 posted on 05/19/2017 8:18:43 PM PDT by nickedknack
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You touch on how there’s a growing movement, of American men going overseas to find women who are from other cultures.

There are a number of websites devoted to this very topic. And sites which help set up meetings and travel to meet the women.

Popular countries of origin for these women are countries in Asia such as The Philippines, eastern Europe, and countries of the former Soviet Union.

And the attraction is that American men are seeking women who were raised in other cultures, and don’t have the mindset of liberal American feminist females.


8 posted on 05/19/2017 8:21:23 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Mark17

Conservatives are finished unless we MARRY Democrat women and take care of them so they don’t need the government. Remember it’s 53% of WHITE women who voted for Trump. ‘Probably’ married. Wouldn’t you prefer pussy?


9 posted on 05/19/2017 8:21:39 PM PDT by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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To: BJ1

10 posted on 05/19/2017 8:23:57 PM PDT by Snickering Hound
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Marriage today for a man is a schitt sandwich. If she is unfaithful or irresponsible and wants a divorce, she gets half no matter what. It has been proven that 20% of the wives cheat and one out of five children born in wedlock are fathered by someone other than the man to which she is married. Because of “feminism” women no longer treat the man with respect and the common decency that is deserved in a relationship. The courts are biased against the husband irrespective of the wife's actions. Until this changes no man with a business sense and wish for self preservation should get married.
11 posted on 05/19/2017 8:29:50 PM PDT by vetvetdoug
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>>>Conservatives are finished unless we MARRY Democrat women and take care of them so they don’t need the government. Remember it’s 53% of WHITE women who voted for Trump. ‘Probably’ married. Wouldn’t you prefer pussy?<<<

It’s not worth the aggravation of living with a libtard. Besides those women are all strong and independent. Let them find some guy like pajama boy.


12 posted on 05/19/2017 8:31:35 PM PDT by BJ1
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And the attraction is that American men are seeking women who were raised in other cultures, and don’t have the mindset of liberal American feminist females.

You have to do your best to keep them from getting Americanized.

13 posted on 05/19/2017 8:33:58 PM PDT by Mark17 (Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. In the beginning GOD....And the rest, as they say, is history)
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You have these liberal men married to wives who cheat or have lesbian girlfriends.... and they say it is fine and normal.

Obviously these idiots agree to support a woman and her lovers, yayh! Marriage redefined. Then you have muslim men with 4 wives who are paid by same liberal men paying taxes ro sport these 4 women... last but not least they agree with Obama, that he cannot support his wife, that we should all pay to support her as first lady with a salary...


14 posted on 05/19/2017 8:35:17 PM PDT by lavaroise
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Also if you click the link, you will see a map that shows how single women voted. Conservative men outnumber conservative women.

"Single women" do vote Democrat, but that single women demographic is largely older divorced/widowed women and black women.

15 posted on 05/19/2017 8:36:43 PM PDT by iowamark
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If the sex Wars are bad now, just wait about 10 years or so when sex robots will be a real thing.

then things will shift to a completely different level.

It will be more destructive to certain cultures than nuclear weapons.


16 posted on 05/19/2017 8:47:46 PM PDT by gaijin
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women provide status and companionship. Sex bots are not going to do that.


17 posted on 05/19/2017 8:58:18 PM PDT by BJ1
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To: Mark17

I want to be careful how to say this. But I feel that most men really don’t want these “feminist” type women.

Men don’t want to have a woman who is so into her high powered professional career, that family life plays 2nd fiddle in their lives.

Men don’t want a woman who is in competition with them in the career struggle.

Men do greatly appreciate a woman who can take care of everything on the home front, while he brings home the bacon.

Men do want a woman who will comfort them. Men want a woman who wants to be a good mother, and works as hard at being a mother as she does at a paying job.

And men on this site, who are predominantly on the conservative side socially and politically, do not want a liberal wife.

I’m just generalizing here. Of course we can find examples of men who are happy with their wives as part of a power couple. I just don’t think that this is how most men are. I know lots of men, and have discussed a lot of these issues over the years with them. Some of the men are more liberal politically, so some of what I mention here applies to even liberal men.


18 posted on 05/19/2017 9:02:17 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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what man in their right mind wants to get married knowing that at any point his wife could be influenced by some freakin feminists and end up dumping him and taking everything he worked for?

Thanks feminists- you’ve done wonders for civilization


19 posted on 05/19/2017 9:05:09 PM PDT by Bob434
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If the sex Wars are bad now, just wait about 10 years or so when sex robots will be a real thing.

I'm predicting that many men will abandon flesh-and-blood women altogether. And male homosexual relationships will die as well.

20 posted on 05/19/2017 9:05:59 PM PDT by Some Fat Guy in L.A. (Still bitterly clinging to rational thought despite it's unfashionability)
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