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To: BitWielder1
Feminism tried to change men, and women too, to fit their political agenda in defiance of human nature. We are reaping the consequences now.

This is true to a certain extent, but the success of the 'agenda' also had to do with some legitimate issues that women were dealing with in the 20th century. A lot of women sincerely felt that they were not 'whole' or recognized as 'whole' by culture and society, that they had no opportunities to develop themselves and their talents as distinct persons apart from home and family, and that such was actually discouraged. There were women, of course, who did create new opportunities and experiences for themselves later; but there was no real 'niche' in society for that.

(I knew many older women when I was young who were miserable and neurotic, because the children were grown and gone and the women had never prepared themselves, developed themselves for this. They failed to do this in part because they had never experienced any social cue or reinforcement of the idea that older life can be a wonderful time for a woman who has developed herself beyond the needs of child-bearing and wifely duties and can now explore and grow futher. Women like these sad 'empty nesters', who had thrown their entire lot into childrearing and homemaking and found themselves 'lost', were almost a 'type' or caricature back then.)

The 'agenda' recognized this and played upon it. The mistake women made was to think that they had to abandon motherhood/homemaking in order to experience fulfillment as whole persons, or that a career outside of the home and becoming like men represented the only path to self-realization. As a result, we now have an economy that demands two paychecks to run a household and creates competition between men and women; and a workplace that values youth and is often prejudiced against maturity, especially in women.
141 posted on 05/14/2017 7:16:01 PM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: Jamestown1630
... legitimate issues that women were dealing with in the 20th century.

Yes, certainly, back when original Feminism were working for equal rights, not LGBT issues.
Like unions who once fought against brutal working conditions but then morphed into something else.

215 posted on 05/15/2017 4:28:22 AM PDT by BitWielder1 (I'd rather have Unequal Wealth than Equal Poverty.)
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To: Jamestown1630

Please define what you men by becoming like men.


229 posted on 05/19/2017 10:36:02 AM PDT by Architect of Avalon
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