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LIBERALS WITH GUNS AND STOCKPILES ARE "READY TO RUMBLE"
Raw Dog Tactical ^

Posted on 05/13/2017 10:42:22 AM PDT by TigerClaws

The new doomsayers taking up arms and preparing for catastrophe: American liberals.

People wear gas masks next to the pipeline route during a protest against the Dakota Access pipeline near the Standing Rock Indian Reservation in St. Anthony, North Dakota, U.S. November 11, 2016.

WRITTEN BY Matthew Sedacca May 07, 2017

A month before the 2016 US presidential election, Colin Waugh and his wife bought their first firearm.

Donald Trump’s campaign was taking an unprecedented turn, with the candidate baiting gun-rights supporters to exert their influence and suggesting that a loss in November would be evidence of a rigged system. The gun, as Waugh frames it, was a form of insurance in case American democracy dissolved into a quasi-Mad Max society, and liberals became the hunted.

When Trump won, Waugh felt “numb.” His wife was “catatonic.” They both feared for their lives. The couple, liberal Mississippians and stalwart Obama supporters, were not the primary targets of the right-wing vitriol directed primarily at Latino immigrants and Muslims during Trump’s campaign. But from Waugh’s liberal perch, seeing the new president’s supporters on the news screaming “We’ll take back our country!” and hearing similar sentiments from conservatives in his home state, even from friends, felt like a genuine threat.

“For the first time in my life, I realized my own freedom was my own responsibility,” says Waugh. “I could no longer trust Trump, or Congress, to reassure my rights and liberties would remain in place.”

But even though he sought self-sufficiency in his new America, Waugh realized he would need a new community of sorts. So on Nov. 10, 2016, Waugh logged onto Facebook and set up the Liberal Prepper.

The rise of the prepper movement

As the group’s name suggests, the Liberal Prepper’s 2,500 members are united by two things: their political leanings, and a desire to learn how to “prep”—to learn the various skills and tactics that would help an individual survive catastrophic events within one’s community. It was founded with the following disclaimer, penned by Waugh: “We welcome all individuals who are center and left of center politically. We do not knowingly accept conservatives, Trump supporters, into this group.”

Prior to accepting members, the group’s administrators typically vet requestors for alt-right iconography. According to Kenny Stabler, the current moderator, any anti-liberal users that get past the vetting process usually are ejected not long after their first “snowflake” comment. “If somebody’s a dick, we boot them,” he says.

Despite their shared politics, members’ individual reasons for prepping vary. Some fear a Trump-triggered nuclear war; others are worried about economic collapse. Nicole Pilt is a Liberal Prepper who says that the nationalist rhetoric now coursing through Western society fuelled her desire to prep. She says she’s “worried about the plethora of natural and social disasters that are occurring.” Many of the Preppers’ reasons for joining are underlined by a distrust of government—a new sentiment for many Democrats—and the resulting fear for one’s safety.

“Trump is a clown, but with the idiot congress we have, I am concerned that we’ll have an economic collapse,” says Stabler. “The election freaked me out because after all this time, people are still voting Republican. Jobs pay so little and the economy is so fragile. That scares me more than some redneck morons.”

Until recently, prepping has primarily been associated with right-wing, second-amendment survivalists. Since the 2016 election, as well as the rise of nationalism and anti-globalist sentiment on both sides of the Atlantic, more folks on the left end of the political spectrum have begun to believe that disaster is impending. In response to this epiphany, Facebook groups such as the Liberal Prepper have gained steam, operating as educational platforms for liberals interested in prepping.

The terms “survivalists” and “preppers” are occasionally used interchangeably, but Chad Huddleston, a professor of anthropology at Southern Illinois University-Edwardsville who has studied prepping, believes ideology plays a significant role in distinguishing the two.

Survivalism, he says, is a term largely associated with doomsday conspiracy theorists and right-wing extremists seen from the 1970s to the 1990s, including anti-government militias, fundamentalists, and terrorists. According to Huddleston, historic figures like the “Unabomber” Ted Kaczynski and Oklahoma City bomber Timothy McVeigh continue to be mythologized among some survivalists. More recent incarnations of survivalism include far-right patriot movements like the “3 Percenters,” founded in response to Barack Obama’s 2008 electoral win, and the “Oath Keepers,” comprised of both current and former military veterans as well as law-enforcement officials whose stated mission is to “defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic.” Both organizations have caught the attention of the Southern Poverty Law Center, which lists them as “extremist antigovernment groups.”

Prepping, on the other hand, is a relatively new term adopted by practitioners who wanted to distance themselves from those radical ideologies. It was meant to be the apolitical version of “survivalist,” though by now the term has become a bit of a catchall. “Nobody wants to call themselves a survivalist because of the baggage,” says Huddleston. “They call themselves ‘preppers’ but when you talk to them, you realize they’re [often] old-school, anti-government militias. They just put on a new category.”

The genesis event for many nonpartisan preppers, says Huddleston, was Hurricane Katrina in 2005. At the time, both the citizens of New Orleans as well as news-watchers around the nation witnessed the government’s fallibility. The Bush administration, it seemed, could not (or would not) react to the disaster with the level of commitment and haste needed, exacerbating the suffering of thousands in the wake of the deadly storm. The 2008 financial crisis stoked additional fear, as Americans began to see the deep vulnerabilities in the US housing market and the nation’s financial system.

The Liberal Preppers and others like them may seem fringe-y or unreasonably paranoid at first glance, but prepping is starting to move more and more into the mainstream. On Facebook alone, there are hundreds prepping-focused groups searchable with the phrase “Preppers” (and plenty of others with “Survivalists”); some have memberships as large as 60,000.

Some of the country’s most influential people have latched onto the trend. Though they might not consider themselves “preppers,” Silicon Valley’s rich and elite are clearly thinking along the same lines as Waugh and Stabler. Earlier this year, LinkedIn co-founder and venture capitalist Reid Hoffman told the New Yorker that he estimates over 50% of Silicon Valley’s upper class owns hideaway property in either the US or abroad (New Zealand is a popular choice among the tech community, with new “residents” including the likes of Peter Thiel); and Steve Huffman, the co-founder and CEO of Reddit, has said he got LASIK so he wouldn’t be burdened by his deficiency come societal collapse. And then, of course, there’s SpaceX’s Elon Musk, who wants to help humanity populate Mars as fast as possible as an answer to man’s “inevitable extinction” on Earth.

Prepping is not a uniquely US phenomenon, although it has different flavors in different parts of the world. A “scale of people’s trust in their [nation’s] government probably reflects how people prep,” Huddleston says. Preppers in Scandinavian countries differ from their Stateside counterparts, predominantly because they wholeheartedly believe their government would eventually save them in a time of danger. According to Huddleston, in that region of the world, preppers focus on surviving disaster in the short-term. Weapons are also not a typical feature of Scandinavian prepping, because there, prepping is less about defending property and person, but rather being able to get away from danger quickly and safely.

The liberal refugees

Despite the trend, it took Trump and one worried Mississippian to trigger the formation of the first large, out-in-the-open left-leaning community. Of the hundreds of prepper groups on Facebook, there are still only handfuls that outwardly promote themselves as “liberal” or welcoming of similar politics—and most are offshoots from the Liberal Prepper, which seems to be the biggest left-leaning prepper community to date. It grew rapidly: Stabler says it had only 30 or so members in the early days, then it’d jump to 100 or so, then more each time it got a mention in the media.

Many of the more experienced Liberal Preppers members are refugees from other survivalist groups who sought out a more politically like-minded community. Now, they “are educating people such as ourselves—liberals, who you never think would prep,” says Waugh. Some members have shared seemingly advanced techniques, like how evacuate from one’s home without leaving a trail; others offer more rudimentary (but probably more useful) survival skills like fire-starting and water-purification methods. “They are helping newbies daily, who are noticing what’s going on and think it’s really scary; who think ‘I want to protect my family regardless of the type of disaster,’” says Waugh.

Seth Hemond, an outdoorsman now living in Washington state, has been prepping for a decade or so, long before Trump entered the White House. While living in Massachusetts during the Blizzard of 1978, Hemond learned that the government can’t—and maybe even won’t—always help you out. To this day, he remembers the hundreds of New England residents left in freezing temperatures without heat, water, or electricity for over a week. If people ran out of food, they couldn’t get groceries for days; Hemond decided it was essential to learn to survive without modern amenities.

Despite his years of prepping, Hemond, too, says he has become wiser since joining the group. But really what amazes Hemond about the Liberal Prepper is the level of respect and open-mindedness maintained in group discussions, compared to other online prepper and survivalist forums. He says that if there’s any sort of silver lining to Trump’s election for the prepping community, it’s this: Suddenly there are a lot more like-minded individuals adding new perspectives to these niche discussions. Things that are verboten elsewhere—liberals in metropolitan communities who want to learn how to use guns, for example—are welcome at groups like the Liberal Prepper, which offer the space to ask these questions.

“There are not a lot of places where you’ll get a rational discussion where people can disagree about firearms in America but you can among this group,” says Hemond. “So it’s like this dialogue going on between this group of adults who may have different levels of skill sets in the thing they’re trying to figure out—but [are] having [an] adult conversation about the politics around it. That’s an interesting dynamic.”

The psychology of prepping

It may seem strange that thousands across the nation are deciding to learn horticulture and how to clean a rifle because they think there might be an economic collapse sometime in the future. But Art Markman, a professor of psychology at the University of Texas-Austin who researches decision-making, says prepping isn’t outside the bounds of normal human responses to fear.

“There is enough news out there now that can be frightening that it’s an extreme reaction on their part, but not an inappropriate one,” he says. People are forever trying to wrest control over situations that feel beyond their own control or understanding. This might involve focusing on aspects of their lives where they feel they are taking charge, or ascribing responsibility to a higher power, like religion.

The preppers are “doing the thing that fits with their belief system that makes sense for taking control over the situation,” Markman says. “And because it emerges from a deep belief that we just can’t trust the institutions around us, it is a rational response to that set of beliefs.”

Learning the survival techniques that are core to prepping might even provide long-term health benefits, Markman says.

In the short term, stress can be a good thing: The sudden surge of adrenaline, as well as the increase of cortisol, can help us in situations like potentially violent conflicts. But experiencing stress for a long period of time is damaging. Markman uses the case of a divorce that drags on for six months as an example: the divorcees might self-medicate with alcohol, but a healthier response is to take up projects like learning to play an instrument or remodeling a house, which essentially shelters them from the stress response. He says that for members of the Liberal Prepper, whose long-term stressor is the helplessness they feel about the threat (whether real or not) of apocalyptic war or economic collapse, learning some homesteading techniques might actually help to remove their stressors.

“In the long term,” Markman says, “if prepping becomes this way of life, it keeps the fearful stuff at bay—because as far as you’re concerned, unlike everybody else, you’re doing something concrete.”

Ready to talk, ready to fight

According to Stabler, liberals were learning how to ensure their safety in case of a disaster long before Trump’s presidency. For years, left-leaning Americans interested in survival practices—picking up outdoor skills, learning how to can and preserve food properly, even taking notes on how to use a gun without hurting one’s self—lurked on places like the red-huedSurvivalist Boards. But they were cautious about their encroachment on right-wing territory, as these discussion boards were not exactly welcoming of liberal perspectives.

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To: Drew68
So all this talk about how we're the ones with the guns and the training and on and on doesn't mean shit if we don't have the stones to bash in skulls. And right now the only people I see who are breaking and smashing things are the Left.

What would you suggest that we do to remedy that?

I'm a former Marine and bouncer I'd I've hurt people and been hurt. Right now I'm very ill (heart issues) and it isn't going to get better, fighting rioters is not in my future

We're less in disagreement than you might think.

101 posted on 05/13/2017 2:37:01 PM PDT by Riley (The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column.)
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To: BookmanTheJanitor

Is that Colin Waugh’s ‘Rambo’ face?

If so, not to worry. I would be more concerned about him molesting one of my grand-daughters or my dog.

Imagine this punk on his 3rd day in the woods, soaking wet from heavy rain, dragging his LL Bean rucksack (filled full of Granola bars) on the ground behind him, up a muddy slope, in the dark, crying because he had to abandon his tattooed, nose/lip pierced 300 lb. wife who was loaded down with their back-up survival food consisting of Oreos and instant latte.

Does anyone here think for a minute that he could overcome even the most feeble of us FReepers? That would include our ladies, grandmas and wheelchair bound members.

I laugh.


102 posted on 05/13/2017 2:49:30 PM PDT by panaxanax
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To: bankwalker

Not very. I’ve had a sock puppet on the page since the month it started. I offer no valuable advice and ask very novice questions to suck up their time.


103 posted on 05/13/2017 2:53:26 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: TigerClaws

"For the first time in my life, I realized my own freedom was my own responsibility," says Waugh."

Well, we should welcome this ignorant shmuck to the club. We've been saying the same for a decade and more. Maybe he's smart enough to be saved yet. He learned -- from us -- that 2nd amendment firearms are for personal protection and defense against a runaway government. They are not just for game hunting. I just hope he learns, also from us, who the good guys really are before he does something really stupid, like pointing his new bang-bang at one of us.


104 posted on 05/13/2017 2:57:10 PM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: Drew68

First person gaming already conditioned them.


105 posted on 05/13/2017 2:58:31 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: so_real

You know what I call a liberal with guns and ammo?

A resupply point.


106 posted on 05/13/2017 2:59:11 PM PDT by american_ranger
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To: Brooklyn Attitude

Negan agrees.


107 posted on 05/13/2017 3:05:36 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: Grimmy

Sooooo many on this thread have forgotten that every communist take-over spills a great deal of blood. Every one of those cases are “leftists in action”. Laugh it off if you want. There could be very hard times ahead.


108 posted on 05/13/2017 3:09:32 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: TigerClaws

Colin Waugh sounds like he’s getting froggy! He should remember that frogs don’t have wings.
Sometimes frogs croak.


109 posted on 05/13/2017 3:17:25 PM PDT by GOYAKLA (" Winning not Whining"!)
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To: GingisK

+10.

‘He who exercises no forethought but makes light of his opponents is sure to be captured by them.’ Sun Tzu


110 posted on 05/13/2017 3:36:48 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: Drew68

Old saying: beware the wrath of a patient man.

We’re patient and with Trump in the White House, we have some hope. Ballot box and soap box worked so we aren’t acting via the ammo box. But if they bring it, they’ll lose. Badly.

This is like pre-WWII. Japan and Germany thought we’d be push overs. Then they finally managed to p### us off. That did not work out very well for them, did it? Same story will repeat if these leftscum go there.


111 posted on 05/13/2017 3:37:51 PM PDT by piytar (http://www.truthrevolt.org/videos/bill-whittle-number-one-bullet)
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To: Nifster

Yup. While I have never killed, I have used extreme violence to defend myself before. Crippling violence in fact. (One punk’s right arm will never fully function again - inverted elbows never fully heal.) And would have killed if the crippling violence did not stop the attack.

To your point: most people freeze when faced with violence. Bet most of these snowflakes would.


112 posted on 05/13/2017 3:42:52 PM PDT by piytar (http://www.truthrevolt.org/videos/bill-whittle-number-one-bullet)
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To: american_ranger

Lol. I am SO stealing that!


113 posted on 05/13/2017 3:50:21 PM PDT by piytar (http://www.truthrevolt.org/videos/bill-whittle-number-one-bullet)
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To: RinaseaofDs
NOW they get why there’s a 2nd Amendment, and it ain’t to keep guns for hunting game.

Yeah, I thought libs believed that only the military and police should have guns. Funny how they conveniently forget that, when they think they're under some kind of threat.

114 posted on 05/13/2017 4:01:55 PM PDT by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

His current food supply is probably fine for my family and myself......RIP


115 posted on 05/13/2017 4:02:09 PM PDT by nevergore
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To: Ammo Republic 15; mrsmel; Black Agnes

Every libtard in Mississippi is within a few blocks of these landmarks

Fondren district of Jackson

Hattiesburg campus

Any black Freedman era college like Alcorn or latter founded like Itta Bena

Liberal arts Dept in Starkville

With a few blocks of the square in Oxford

Theatre companies in Jackson

Newspaper offices in any town to speak of

Yankee casino workers....not all though

Blacks of course but Mississippi rural blacks are likely the best in the country


116 posted on 05/13/2017 4:24:24 PM PDT by wardaddy (Multiculturalism: Everyone wants to inhabit the world of white men with no white men in it)
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To: Twinkie
HOT LEAD from my Smith & Wesson will be their first AND most likely LAST warning!
117 posted on 05/13/2017 4:35:11 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea ((I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders))
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To: ssfromla

They can look it up on YouTube


118 posted on 05/13/2017 5:32:33 PM PDT by Keyhopper (Indians had bad immigration laws)
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To: Keyhopper

Yea yea whatever makes ypu feel better. I can watch youtube to rebuild an engine but I bet I have problems since I’ve never done it before.


119 posted on 05/13/2017 6:06:21 PM PDT by ssfromla
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To: piytar

Yup


120 posted on 05/13/2017 6:39:44 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the cloudsi)
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