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Bring Back the Draft? Your Thoughts!!
4/30/17 | hapnHal

Posted on 04/30/2017 8:56:49 PM PDT by hapnHal

Should we bring back the draft?

In the wake of another Memorial Day, when most Americans recognized their fallen veterans by staying home from the office, it’s worth taking a moment to consider a perennial question: Should the military draft return? Yes, argued Joseph Epstein in The Atlantic earlier this year. Epstein, a short story writer and former draftee who served in the Army from 1958 to 1960, opposes an all-volunteer force for several reasons: It’s unfair for a tiny percentage of Americans—less than one percent—to shoulder the burden of fighting wars; the American public isn’t knowledgeable enough on foreign policy; the draft could rehabilitate young criminal offenders; and, most of all, a draft would contribute to the “melting pot” that makes America great.


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To: hapnHal

Not a military draft, keep that as it is and add a national service draft. Train some for riot control, some for disaster recovery, some for wildland firefighting. Those not physically capable of those jobs will do office-related support work.


41 posted on 04/30/2017 10:14:05 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods (Ride To The Sound Of The Guns)
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To: hapnHal

As a volunteer that signed up the day ground war started for GW1, I see the reasoning behind wanting to.

Instill a sense of discipline and love for country in those that would not otherwise have it.

But, I wouldn’t subject the people that already have it...and sign on the line without being forced to.....to the unending bullshiite that bringing these kids online would take.

Nope. Volunteers truly care about this country. They can take care of the workload. If they start thinking they can’t take it, they’re just going to work harder.


42 posted on 04/30/2017 10:16:09 PM PDT by 1_Inch_Group (Country Before Party)
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To: SaxxonWoods
You and all of the others who are in agreement with you, REALLY need to rethink your position!

You REALLY want the unassimilated, though born here Muslim crazies doing "riot control"?

How about the drug pushers/gangbangers...you want these bottom of the barrel thugs helping themselves to stuff, while on "duty" to help with disasters?

What about the heroin addicts, pot smokers, completely mentally and physically unfit ( many kids are functional illiterates today and physically soft )to do office work?

And you truly believe that some judge is going to NOT claim that this is "SLAVERY" and "against the Constitution" ?

43 posted on 04/30/2017 10:25:12 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: laplata; Big Horn

Indeed.

It was a sort of culture shock when I came out of the Rangers, where everyone was a multiple volunteer and went to a regular leg infantry unit for a while, where a lot of the privates (and even some of the Junior NCOs) were draftees or ‘enlist or jail types’.


44 posted on 04/30/2017 10:27:04 PM PDT by LegendHasIt
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To: LegendHasIt

I can understand what you saw. In Nam, me and all the other the NCO’s in my Company were enlisted and the older guys were “Lifers”.


45 posted on 04/30/2017 10:34:29 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals/Progressives.have diseased minds.)
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To: hapnHal

seems the more draftees, the better the results.

WW1 - draftees = 72%

WWII - draftees = 61.2% (According to the National WWII Museum) some say it was 66%

Korea - draftees = 53%

Vietnam - draftees = 25%

now, in answer to the question: I was drafted. I believe I am better for it.
Not so sure the Country or the Marines were.

So, personally ? yes.

For the good of the country? no, for now.


46 posted on 04/30/2017 10:42:42 PM PDT by stylin19a (Terrorists - "just because you don't see them doesn't mean they aren't there")
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To: laplata

Don’t blame the draft for what the human garbage known as the “baby boomers” did. We are still dealing with their cowardice spewed forth by their demon spawn.


47 posted on 04/30/2017 11:05:41 PM PDT by SanchoP
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To: Kickass Conservative

Don’t forget the AR that you be to keep afterwards if you’ve passed proficiency training and don’t have any felonies :-)


48 posted on 04/30/2017 11:06:35 PM PDT by Axenolith (Government blows, and that which governs least, blows least...)
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To: SanchoP

Don’t blame the draft for what the human garbage known as the “baby boomers” did.


Duh! That’s obvious. You don’t blame a guard rail for the accident when you hit it in your car, either.

And it’s “some” of the baby boomers, not all.


49 posted on 04/30/2017 11:14:50 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals/Progressives.have diseased minds.)
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To: nopardons

There are gang members and jihadi candidates already using the voluntary military as a training camp for post service “work”.


50 posted on 04/30/2017 11:18:02 PM PDT by Axenolith (Government blows, and that which governs least, blows least...)
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To: hapnHal

Unless our country is seriously threatened, no way.


51 posted on 04/30/2017 11:18:31 PM PDT by meyer (The Constitution says what it says, and it doesn't say what it doesn't say.)
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To: SaxxonWoods

“National service draft”? Isn’t that involuntary servitude?

The incentivized way to work this would be to say for every year you serve in the military you get a year of tax exempt income no matter what is earned, for some type of national service you get 6 months/year.


52 posted on 04/30/2017 11:24:15 PM PDT by Axenolith (Government blows, and that which governs least, blows least...)
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To: hapnHal

Yes

The male white race is dying


53 posted on 04/30/2017 11:25:06 PM PDT by wardaddy (Multiculturalism: Everyone wants to inhabit the world of white men with no white men in it)
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To: arthurus

Shit average kid today outside red zone parentage will think we deserve it

This ain’t 1941 or 1861 etc


54 posted on 04/30/2017 11:27:52 PM PDT by wardaddy (Multiculturalism: Everyone wants to inhabit the world of white men with no white men in it)
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To: hapnHal

Nope.


55 posted on 04/30/2017 11:30:39 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Axenolith

Of course there are...so do you want many times over more of them in the military?


56 posted on 04/30/2017 11:35:13 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: hapnHal

No.


57 posted on 04/30/2017 11:57:56 PM PDT by Ace's Dad (BTW, "Ace" is now Captain Ace. But only when I'm bragging about my son!)
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To: hapnHal

Yes! Everyone from ages 18-30 should serve 4 years.. Makes a man or woman out of you!


58 posted on 05/01/2017 12:00:01 AM PDT by Davy Crocket
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To: hapnHal

We would not have won WW2 without it. It puts everyone’s sons in danger as long as there are no exceptions. Of course boot camp would have to be 9 months long to get these kids squared away....but now would be the time to do it. Trump won’t mandate tranny safe room training, and Mad Dog would turn out some fighting men to be proud of.


59 posted on 05/01/2017 12:05:12 AM PDT by TomasUSMC (FIGHT LIKE WW2, WIN LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM.)
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To: hapnHal

No. Conscripts have traditionally made bad soldiers.


60 posted on 05/01/2017 12:10:12 AM PDT by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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