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10-year-old with autism arrested at Florida school
cnn ^ | April 21, 2017 | Jacqueline Howard, CNN

Posted on 04/21/2017 8:18:44 PM PDT by Morgana

CNN)When John Haygood, a 10-year-old boy with autism, was arrested last week at a school in Florida, he kept repeating that he didn't know what was happening, as seen in shaky cellphone video taken by his mother. "I don't know what's going on. I don't understand," he cried out. In the video, his hands are cuffed as two officers escort him to the back seat of a police car. His mother, Luanne Haygood, followed behind them while recording the incident on her phone. In the video, John appears distraught, and yells some profanities.

Luanne is heard in the video speaking to the officers, "Excuse me, do you have any paperwork or anything you can say to me?"

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TOPICS: Education
KEYWORDS: arth; autism; donutwatch; education; elementaryschool; fl; florida; grammarschool; leo; luannehaygood; okeechobee; schools; specialed
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To: DesertRhino

I think the boy’s behavior was a result of poor discipline by the parents. My wife is a para-educator for a classroom of special needs students. Many of their parents are ill equipped to deal with the special discipline problems of these mentally handicapped children. The result is the school special needs staff must pick up the pieces. If the special staff has the specialty training to work with these students, there is good outcomes. I think in this case, the para-educator lacked the training and the kid took advantage of it by acting like he does at home—out of control.


81 posted on 04/22/2017 12:35:23 AM PDT by jonrick46 (The Left has a mental illness: A totalitarian psyche.)
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To: jonrick46
I’ve met Temple Grandin, one of the world’s leading authorities in autism. She is also severely autistic.

If you are not a vegetarian, you should know Temple Grandin.

Temple Grandin, Killing Them Softly at Slaughterhouses for 30 Years

82 posted on 04/22/2017 12:41:24 AM PDT by cynwoody
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To: Morgana

BINGO! The “disabled” label gets liberally thrown around as an excuse for poor/abdicationesque parenting IMHO. Dangerous meds have replaced “abusive” spankings.
This is especially true in “single mom” households. The government and school district’s response is to throw more taxpayer money at it.
If dad wants to discipline, he is portrayed as an ogre, then run out on a rail by mom and the compliciit “family” court system.


83 posted on 04/22/2017 1:09:35 AM PDT by AbolishCSEU (Amount of "child" support paid is inversely proportionate to mother's actual parenting of children)
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To: ransomnote

I worked as a classroom aide for awhile when my daughter was in school. I worked in a class that had ten and eleven yr old autistic boys. The ones who used that type of language had parents who used that type of language. They also were the most aggressive to everyone. Parents were often single mothers ho did not want to follow any suggestions about schedule or structure.


84 posted on 04/22/2017 1:23:23 AM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: Morgana

The reason for the handcuffs is simple... if the kid freaks out and thrashes around in police custody in the back of the car and hurts himself... they get sued anyway. Thanks to frivolous lawsuits... these measures are taken. The cops are not wrong here. Maybe the fact that the paraprofessional (whatever that is) is hell bent on pressing charges on an autistic kid that won’t be convicted in court is part of the issue. All around kinda ridiculous. My 2 cents


85 posted on 04/22/2017 1:28:09 AM PDT by bike800
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To: cherry

if the shoe fits...
The largest common denominator is the “single” mom factor. Mom coochie coos and coddles her kiddos, then gets up on her hind legs if anyone DARE suggest discipline and training as opposed to psychotherapy and drugs.

I say this as someone who was a divorced mom in the 80s and 90s. Most women do not possess the “discipline gene” especially if they are single parents. They tend to enmesh with their children, “teambuild” against dad, (parental alienation), feel sorry for their children (parent by guilt), treat their children as adult confidants, BFFing them (mini spouse), lob false allegations of abuse against dad in order to ensure 100% sole custody to guarantee maximum “child support” payment from dad.

Likewise they have few expectations of their children—its much easier that way and eventually becomes someone else’s problem when they can no longer handle the monster they created.

Sad but true.


86 posted on 04/22/2017 1:30:29 AM PDT by AbolishCSEU (Amount of "child" support paid is inversely proportionate to mother's actual parenting of children)
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To: Slyfox

And there you have the likely crux of the issue.


87 posted on 04/22/2017 3:07:27 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: cynwoody

We had a vice principal with a paddle at both the high schools I attended. I’m guessing similar for you.


88 posted on 04/22/2017 3:14:59 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Theo
Autistic kids are occasionally violent. Hello.

Next they'll be arresting two year olds for having temper tantrums.

89 posted on 04/22/2017 3:57:43 AM PDT by MarMema
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To: bike800
"The reason for the handcuffs IS simple..."

Um, what exactly was the kid arrested for again? He viciously attacked an adult. Case closed.

If you are going to mainstream your child, then you mainstream your child. You shelter and coddle them in school with their IEP's and then they graduate to a world they can't function in because the bar has been adjusted for them the whole time.

This kid was disruptive and detrimental to the class, refused discipline, and attacked an adult. How do you think that would be dealt with "in the real world"?

90 posted on 04/22/2017 4:16:31 AM PDT by cincinnati65
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To: cherry
its the LAW to send your kids to school....

No. It's not. Home school is an option and an appropriate one in some cases.

91 posted on 04/22/2017 4:43:41 AM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: InvisibleChurch

“This nonsense for arresting little kids has got to stop.”

People who had authority, parents, teachers, school administrators, are terrified to use it. Lawsuits and prosecution by officials for spanking and other minor disciplinary efforts figure prominently in the reason for this non-use of authority. Each level defers to the next person up the line. Ultimately, you end up with a deputy sheriff or police officer playing a role where twenty years ago they’d never have been called.

What local police officials have to do is tell the other levels of authority that it is their problem and not a police issue. On the other hand, we have school administrators going ape over a Poptart chewed into the shape of a gun. There is plenty of craziness in the education system now. You have to wonder how some of these showflakes get and keep their jobs.


92 posted on 04/22/2017 4:59:38 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: Morgana

I live in Fla. My coworkers kid severely handicapped. Physically and mentally. Aspberger autistic.. He can’t speak. He signs. They handcuffed him. At some point she ended up with a 700k settlement against school system.


93 posted on 04/22/2017 5:09:18 AM PDT by Donnafrflorida (Thru Him all things are possible.)
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To: Morgana
Much as hate to admit it but know some Down Syndrome kids that should not be there for same reason. Not Violent but still have outbursts and can’t be controlled without help. Some really don’t learn much. It’s a case by case basis, but a lot of them really don’t need to be in public schools.

I agree, and there are Down's Syndrome kids who ARE violent. I have acquaintances who work with special needs kids and some of the stories they have told me are incredible.

And yet the system demands that they be placed in the least restrictive environment so they are put in classes where they do harm to the teachers, the teaching assistants, and other students, and complaining to the higher ups gets nowhere.

There's a very high turn over in that area. The positions are very low paying and people, while they want to help special needs kids, did not sign up to be molested and physically attacked by students who are often bigger than themselves.

94 posted on 04/22/2017 5:15:53 AM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: cynwoody

You know, while the owner was wrong and did murder someone, whatever would possess someone to go into a stranger’s house and take a shower?

You have to know that you are taking the risk that the owner might not take too kindly to that.

I cannot fathom that one.


95 posted on 04/22/2017 5:18:34 AM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: Theo

Maybe..
But a fact, not maybe, is this school is for kids like him with problems and they should have known how to deal with him.

Plus the incident happened in Oct.
They decide to arrest him so they went to the school out of the blue and arrested him.
According to the parent, with out any paper work.
They could have come to the home any day after the Oct incident and achieved the same result and also informed the parents of what was about to happen..They did none of this.

I hope the parents have hi power lawyered up and shove it up the towns ass


96 posted on 04/22/2017 5:20:52 AM PDT by CGASMIA68
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To: Morgana

My gosh...another reason to homeschooled. Parents, don’t abuse your kids - homeschooled them...


97 posted on 04/22/2017 5:25:50 AM PDT by ConservaTeen (Islam is Not the Religion of Peace, but The religion of Pedophilia...)
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To: Texas Fossil
No. It's not. Home school is an option and an appropriate one in some cases.

Except those parents don't want their special needs kids home.

Those I know who work with them tell me that the parents will send in their kids sick even, even though they know the kids will likely get sent home by the school. They take the change anyway.

And if the kid throws up, then the parents claim they have reflux, so instead of the kids being sent home, like they are supposed to be and would be if normal, they are given a pass.

And when there's a day off, especially a snow day, the parents get really mad.

98 posted on 04/22/2017 5:26:27 AM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: Theo
This is my hometown. There is much more to this story than what is being reported. The school the child attends is a specialized school for students who have demonstrated behavioral problems and the staff at the school are trained in dealing with children with autism. On the day this happened, the child had returned to the school after being absent for an extended period of time and he was there to take a test that would have taken an hour. He was acting up that day and had been in the school for an hour and fifteen minutes and they weren't able to calm him down enough to take the test. The arrest was the result of an assault that happened prior to this and the teacher's injuries were far more than what is being reported. I cannot verify but what I have heard is the teacher's foot was broken as a result of the child stomping the teacher's foot

There is video out there of this child at the time of the arrest. It's rather shocking to listen to this child speaking to his mother. Okeechobee is a very small town and like most small towns, word travels fast here. What you all are hearing is very one sided.

99 posted on 04/22/2017 5:44:26 AM PDT by liberalh8ter (The only difference between flash mob 'urban yutes' and U.S. politicians is the hoodies.)
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To: caww

Handcuffing a child doesn’t solve an issue.


100 posted on 04/22/2017 6:06:21 AM PDT by InvisibleChurch (https://thepurginglutheran.wordpress.com)
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