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10-year-old with autism arrested at Florida school
cnn ^ | April 21, 2017 | Jacqueline Howard, CNN

Posted on 04/21/2017 8:18:44 PM PDT by Morgana

CNN)When John Haygood, a 10-year-old boy with autism, was arrested last week at a school in Florida, he kept repeating that he didn't know what was happening, as seen in shaky cellphone video taken by his mother. "I don't know what's going on. I don't understand," he cried out. In the video, his hands are cuffed as two officers escort him to the back seat of a police car. His mother, Luanne Haygood, followed behind them while recording the incident on her phone. In the video, John appears distraught, and yells some profanities.

Luanne is heard in the video speaking to the officers, "Excuse me, do you have any paperwork or anything you can say to me?"

(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Education
KEYWORDS: arth; autism; donutwatch; education; elementaryschool; fl; florida; grammarschool; leo; luannehaygood; okeechobee; schools; specialed
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Epileptic seizures and other (autism, drunk, drugs) outbursts, need containment for benefit of the patient and those surrounding!
It may not look nice but it is reality.
Been there, done that.


121 posted on 04/22/2017 9:20:07 AM PDT by GOYAKLA (" Winning not Whining"!)
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To: Morgana

I agree.

And the boy in the video may not have ever received the consequences of his actions before, so thought he could get away with anything he wanted to do.

Any Down’s Syndrome person who can use a phone is smart enough to learn to not get physically violent with others.

Special needs means mental and physical disabilities but that does not preclude discipline by negotiating with them and not letting them learn by experience, like the rest of us.


122 posted on 04/22/2017 9:33:17 AM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: arthurus

Agree. Great example in Chile of a country back to Western greatness. Hope lots of Freeport read your comment.


123 posted on 04/22/2017 9:41:50 AM PDT by amihow
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To: metmom

“And the boy in the video may not have ever received the consequences of his actions before, so thought he could get away with anything he wanted to do.”

Is it the boy or is it the parents? Be real here. The Bible says “Spare the rod” and it does not give exceptions like if your child has “special needs”. Have been ripped to shreds over this but think about it. Now not saying you take a Down Syndrome child out and thrash him or her but you do apply discipline plus a swat on the butt of a Downs child never hurt it. When they are little and having one of those “sit down protests” they are known for that is the perfect time for a swat on the rear end as that would get them off up it.

I hear all the time “I can’t spank my child he/she has autism” BS! Wear out his/her little behind then maybe they will cut this crap and I don’t want to hear “oh it hurt his/her little feeeeelings”. Or hit changed his/her mood. No it made him stop misbehaving!

http://www.wmcactionnews5.com/story/30544051/autistic-child-spanked-by-nurse-assault-charges-filed

As for the nurse in that story, she told the child “no”. What does mom do? Nothing. In my day, our moms would have spanked us by the second time we did something like that. You know I’m correct. Mom should have spanked him after the nurse did.


124 posted on 04/22/2017 9:53:11 AM PDT by Morgana ( Always a bit of truth in dark humor.)
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To: Morgana
In my day, students who hit teachers were suspended

Now, if you do something like punch a wall, kick a garbage bin its an arrestable offense.

The commie cops should stick to stopping real crime and go finish their donuts.

125 posted on 04/22/2017 9:57:52 AM PDT by mainestategop (DonÂ’t Let Freedom Slip Away! After America , There is No Place to Go)
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To: amihow

I try to get Pinochet in the conversation as often as I can. Too many here remember him as simply a Latin American takeover general.


126 posted on 04/22/2017 10:32:21 AM PDT by arthurus
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To: NorthstarMom

and they are true angels too the children and families with disabilities.


127 posted on 04/22/2017 10:42:04 AM PDT by muggs
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To: Morgana

When my youngest was two and refused to pick up her toys, I picked her up, put her feet on top of my feet, held her hands and walked her over to the nearest toy.

I bent down, still holding her hands, grabbed the toy between her hands, together with her feet still on top of mine, we walked over to the toy box and I pulled her hands apart and let the toy drop in.

She was screaming bloody murder the whole time and I figured someone probably thought I was abusing her.

So after the toy went in the toy box, I said to her, *Either you pick up your toys yourself or we do this again until you do.*

Still crying her eyes out, she proceeded to pick up every toy she left out.

I didn’t have to do it twice.

I always figured that the reason God made kids smaller than us was so that when they didn’t listen, we could literally force them to.

I wanted the thought in their minds that when I told them to do something, they HAD to listen, because once they hit teenage years and they were too big to force to do anything any more, they needed the mindset that they had no choice but to listen to me.


128 posted on 04/22/2017 11:13:22 AM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: faucetman

My son teaches learning disabled children at a private school for such children, (albeit, in his school, the children are mostly high functioning), and he has several aides per classroom. In public schools, sometimes there is only one such child in a classroom, and so the aide is just for that child, but if there are more than one special needs children, there may be several children to the aide. Ideally, severely impaired children are one on one aide to child ratio, but public schools don’t usually have money for that, and it probably depends on additional laws in individual states.


129 posted on 04/22/2017 11:34:06 AM PDT by Flaming Conservative
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To: faucetman

Teacher’s aids are distinct from paraprofessionals, they do not perform the same roles and thus have a different title.


130 posted on 04/22/2017 12:03:02 PM PDT by NorthstarMom
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To: InvisibleChurch

Tell that to the authorites who make the rules that govern the treatment of kids out of control. Just how would you instruct an officer in a situation that is violent and threatening other children?


131 posted on 04/22/2017 12:45:34 PM PDT by caww
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To: metmom

When in Grade School overheard my Grandma and another woman talking about someone they knew who had a two year old who they considered “spoiled”. This child’s mother, when she came over would set everything out of reach of the child so the he would not touch it. My Grandma and her friend were like “if she does not want him touching it she should simply smack his hand and give a firm ‘NO’”.

I asked my Grandma more in this. She said, more or less this mother was creating more trouble for herself and you start training a child the day you bring it home from the hospital. She said “by smacking his hand and telling him ‘no’ you are telling him that some things are not for him”.

Case in point that 4 year old in the last story I sent you. That machine was not for him and the nurse had told him “no” once and that is all she should have had to tell him. Had his mother been smacking his hand all along that nurse would not have had to smack his rear end.

What you wanna bet that boy and the boy in this story gonna have inmates smacking their faces one day in Cell Block B?

My Grandma was correct “the day they come home from the hospital”.


132 posted on 04/22/2017 12:58:55 PM PDT by Morgana ( Always a bit of truth in dark humor.)
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To: caww

Why are the police involved anyway? Because the administration won’t put kids in classes for disruptive kids or work another situation out. How does being arrested help a ten year old?


133 posted on 04/22/2017 1:30:36 PM PDT by InvisibleChurch (https://thepurginglutheran.wordpress.com)
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To: InvisibleChurch

As long as your focus is on just the welfare of the 10 yr old you cannot see the problem.


134 posted on 04/22/2017 1:32:09 PM PDT by caww
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To: caww

Throw the kid in jail and let him rot


135 posted on 04/22/2017 1:33:42 PM PDT by InvisibleChurch (https://thepurginglutheran.wordpress.com)
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To: InvisibleChurch

Might be a good idea for the parents...


136 posted on 04/22/2017 1:34:58 PM PDT by caww
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To: InvisibleChurch

Tell me please how would you handle an out of control child threatening the safety of other children????


137 posted on 04/22/2017 1:36:18 PM PDT by caww
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To: metmom
whatever would possess someone to go into a stranger’s house and take a shower?

Apparently, he was staying with someone close by, so he must have made a mistake. Of course, if he thought he was entering his host's house, why did he break in? That would piss off the host, I would think.

Hopefully, they did a toxicology report on him. It would be interesting to know his BAC and whether any other interesting substances were present.

Also, the testimony of whomever saw him last before the shooter might prove interesting.

But I imagine this story will drop out of the news until the case comes up for trial.

Here are a couple of lawyers going back and forth on the case:

https://youtu.be/5FgBmKS0am4?t=117

One thing worth noting: this isn't really a home-invasion case. The shooter owns two adjacent houses. He lives in one and runs a business out of the other. The shooting happened in the business house, not his personal residence with him in it. He entered his business house, found the guy taking a shower, ran back to his residence to retrieve his gun, then went back to the business house and confronted the guy in its shower. There were bullet holes in the shower curtain.

138 posted on 04/22/2017 11:31:45 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

It shouldn’t be. Your taxes, if you pay them, are paying her/his salary.


139 posted on 04/22/2017 11:41:26 PM PDT by Twink
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To: dr_lew

Yay! Good for you! If someone, even a kid lays a hand on me, I’m reporting it.


140 posted on 04/22/2017 11:42:48 PM PDT by Twink
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