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To: discostu
Anyone saying Rey isn't a Mary Sue is just being dumb and obtuse to boot (and that is just a short synopsis).

Start with the fact that Luke got his ass kicked in all 3 movies and had to be helped by other people. Luke just had quick reflexes and that was just that until he could be trained (Heroes journey which is the antithesis of a Stu). Could he even control minds until the third with low tier mentally handicapped characters (Well seasoned force users cannot even do that)? Could he even do the easiest maneuver, force pull in the first? Had some training with Kenobi, Mary Sue just found out the force was real and poof skills that rival a Master. This is terrible writing, no character struggles, extreme and the development/wish fulfillment was left vague in order to market the "girl power" memes in order to push plastic toys. Also at least he practiced shooting wombats. Tons of other cringe worthy stuff. VII was an abomination.
60 posted on 04/17/2017 3:58:11 PM PDT by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: rollo tomasi

Rey is the worst. It was embarrassing seeing her fly better than Lando first time out, holding her own the first time she held a lightsaber. I thought the movie sucked wampa balls. It was the first one I didn’t see in the theater and I don’t plan on watching the rest of the trilogy at all.


65 posted on 04/17/2017 8:42:01 PM PDT by Rastus
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To: rollo tomasi

I didn’t say she’s not a Mary Sue, I said whining about it shows you simply don’t understand SW. Really let’s look at them:
Grew up in the desert suburbs
played with fast vehicles
didn’t want to follow in the family business
wanted to escape to a life of adventure

That’s the thumbnail bio for BOTH Lucas and Luke S. He is the very definition of a Marty Stu. Hell even Woody Allen doesn’t name his character after himself.

Only time Luke got his ass kicked was fighting Vader. And he didn’t just have quick reflexes, he was the best X-Wing pilot in the Death Star fight, and won the day. Rey hasn’t shown any direct Force skills. And Rey goes through plenty of character struggle, or have you conveniently forgotten that she was starving. Luke shot womprat, Rey flew whatever random crap she found.

Whining about Mary Sue character in SW is an abomination. It’s a hobby of the kind of pathetic whiners that inspired the Simpsons Comicbook guy, the pathetic douches that must complain about everything in order to feel important. Out here in reality that’s what SW is, was and always will be, it’s a director wish fulfillment series built around stand-in characters. Because while it starts with Luke it sure as hell didn’t end there. Obi-Wan is the father figure Lucas always wanted, Han the cool friend, and Leia started as the girlfriend he always wanted and turned into the sister (which should creep everybody the hell out). Suddenly not liking that 40 years later is just silly.


69 posted on 04/18/2017 7:49:39 AM PDT by discostu (Stand up and be counted, for what you are about to receive.)
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