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PICTURED: The internal medicine specialist father-of-five who was beaten and dragged off....
daily mail uk ^ | April 11, 2017 | Liam Quinn and Hannah Parry For Dailymail.com

Posted on 04/11/2017 10:15:19 AM PDT by Morgana

FULL TITLE: PICTURED: The internal medicine specialist father-of-five who was beaten and dragged off an overbooked United flight as CEO pens 'tone deaf' email DEFENDING staff

The passenger who was dragged from an United Airlines flight is 69-year-old grandfather Dr David Dao.

Footage of the Vietnamese-American being hauled off the overbooked flight at Chicago's O'Hare International Airport on Sunday caused outrage on Monday.

Dr Dao was heard in videos captured of his shocking eviction saying he needed to get home to Louisville so he could see patients.

DailyMail.com can reveal Dr Dao is a father of five and a grandfather, who specializes in internal medicine. Four of his five children are doctors.

His wife Teresa, 69, is a pediatrican who trained at Ho Chi Minh University in Saigon and also practices in Elizabethtown, Kentucky - about 40 miles south of Louisville.

Their eldest son Tim, 34, practices medicine in Texas; their second son Ben, 31, is a medical graduate; their daughter Christine, 33, is a doctor in Durham, NC; and their youngster daughter Angela, 27, is a medical graduate of the University of Kentucky.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: airlines; airplane; daviddao; doctor; ual; united
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To: Morgana

The passenger who was dragged from an United Airlines flight is 69-year-old grandfather Dr David Dao.
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Well what that proves is that people who are 69 years old and people who are doctors can be just as stupid as anyone else.


81 posted on 04/11/2017 7:39:30 PM PDT by fortes fortuna juvat (God, Guns, and Trump will save the USA)
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To: Morgana
I guess, according to the posts I've read here...passenger's rights are DOA. 😩
82 posted on 04/11/2017 7:47:56 PM PDT by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
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To: blueunicorn6
it’s almost like Britain has airlines that compete with United.

Both United and British Airways fly between US cities and European cities.

83 posted on 04/11/2017 8:14:41 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: humblegunner
Actually, the fine print is on the passenger's side in this case.

In United's Contract of carriage, they discuss the terms for a "Denied Boarding" situation (due to overbooking):

https://www.united.com/web/en-US/content/contract-of-carriage.aspx#sec25

In the "Refusal of Service" section they discuss the conditions under which they can deny service and remove you from the plane. This situation isn't covered.

https://www.united.com/web/en-US/content/contract-of-carriage.aspx#sec21

So, the overbooking situation needs to be handled before they allow passengers onto the plane. Once boarded, they cannot remove a passenger without cause (disorderly conduct, emergency, etc.).

84 posted on 04/11/2017 8:33:33 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: Moonman62; Morgana

The plane was not oversold per UA’s own definition of that term in its own policies in their contract. There were not more passengers with tickets than seats. The crew members that were displacing the “re-accommodated” passengers were not ticket holders.


85 posted on 04/11/2017 9:47:10 PM PDT by lastchance (Credo.)
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To: Neidermeyer

Exactly the situation as it stands.


86 posted on 04/11/2017 9:52:05 PM PDT by lastchance (Credo.)
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To: Mr. K

Nothing you said applied in this case.

This was not an oversale condition. UA will say it was, but they booked their employees after they knew the plane for full.

Also, Dr Dao was already boarded, which means UA illegally denied transport of a paid passenger. UA will argue that it was really just a denial of boarding since the flight had not pushed off.

Even if you buy that line-of-bull, UA did not follow the proper procedure to select passengers for involuntarily denial of boarding. Hint, late boarding, non-reservation, non-fare passengers, like the UA employees are the first to go.

UA illegally ejected a passenger for their own convenience. They will rightfully pay the price.


87 posted on 04/11/2017 10:01:33 PM PDT by 13foxtrot
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To: Morgana
At one point today United Airlines had lost over a half billion dollars of value. Whether or not they were legally in the right, this is a stupid policy on several levels and the leadership of the airline should be held accountable. This poorly thought out policy may end up being more costly to the value of United Airlines than a crash.
88 posted on 04/11/2017 10:02:15 PM PDT by Ronaldus Magnus
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To: blueunicorn6

The Daily Mail is the best newspaper for coverage of events in the US


89 posted on 04/11/2017 10:13:48 PM PDT by Rome2000 (SMASH THE CPUSA-SIC SEMPER TYRANNIS-CLOSE ALL MOSQUES)
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To: Mr. K; miss marmelstein
Oh please are you kidding me?

The airline business is a customer service business. The passenger was boarded. His luggage was on board. The UAL manager came aboard and demanded four volunteers to deboard. When no one volunteered he ordered four passengers to be taken off the plane randomly. The 69 year old man was the third passenger ORDERED OFF the plane. He refused. The Manager called law enforcement and had the man violently removed.

You are telling me that UAL has no clue how many crew members they have to move around the country BEFORE they board the passengers? I call piss poor management on UAL’s side. I hope they have to pay dearly for this atrocity. How dare a US company treat its customers this way!

Note: I have no problem with the airlines informing passengers before they board that they have to take a later flight (which in this case was 22 hours later). If the passenger manages to negotiate a "deal" more power to that passenger.

90 posted on 04/11/2017 10:55:06 PM PDT by Chgogal (I will NOT submit, therefore, Jihadists hate me.)
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To: 13foxtrot; SarahPalin2012
BUMP TO THE TOP

One of the few Freepers who knows what he/she is talking about. Well done!

91 posted on 04/11/2017 11:01:25 PM PDT by Chgogal (I will NOT submit, therefore, Jihadists hate me.)
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To: humblegunner
The airline is privileged to serve me. The airlines are in the customer service business. It's not good business to have a customer beaten up AFTER he has boarded. Once a passenger has boarded, is not causing any problems and is not a threat, he cannot be ejected off the plane. UAL is going to pay for this and deservedly so.
92 posted on 04/11/2017 11:09:25 PM PDT by Chgogal (I will NOT submit, therefore, Jihadists hate me.)
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To: Uncle Sam 911
Did anyone cry *racism* yet?


93 posted on 04/11/2017 11:31:57 PM PDT by Daffynition ("The New PTSD: Post-Trump Stress Disorder" - The MLN didn't make Trump, so they can't break Trump.)
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To: Mr. K
Platinum level flyer on several airlines, many years of travel. Some observations

1. If Capt says you're off the ship, you GTFO. His aircraft, his rules.
2. Doc made a scene and likely rattled passengers, esp running back on the a/c
3. Could airline handle this one better? Maybe. But 3 other passengers had no problem with egress.
4. This guy's behavior seems unstable. He's on, he's off; he accepts voucher, then declines voucher; refuses to exit with authorities.

If compensation is rendered it will only reinforce this type of behavior. Lot of misinfo at this point. Withholding my final judgement here, but most of us travel without resorting to belligerent behavior that requires authorities to get involved.

94 posted on 04/11/2017 11:37:48 PM PDT by HonkyTonkMan
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To: lastchance; Moonman62

“The plane was not oversold per UA’s own definition of that term in its own policies in their contract. There were not more passengers with tickets than seats. The crew members that were displacing the “re-accommodated” passengers were not ticket holders.”

Okay for those of us who never fly the friendly skies, please explain to us in English what that means?

All news reports, and have followed this since the beginning have said the plane was “overbooked”. Why is/was the news saying this?


95 posted on 04/12/2017 12:07:16 AM PDT by Morgana ( Always a bit of truth in dark humor.)
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To: Daffynition

So Chow Mein is a Card shark?


96 posted on 04/12/2017 12:08:45 AM PDT by Morgana ( Always a bit of truth in dark humor.)
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To: fortes fortuna juvat

Well what that proves is that if people want to drag up something from 11 years ago about this man that have nothing to so with the price of tea in China (NO PUN INTENDED) Then I can bring up Untied’s safety in the air.

Oh please like hijackings had not happened before? How far back? Can you say “Dan Cooper”? Why don’t ever airline not train their Stewardess in Karate, Judo or something?

If United wants to “blame the victim” well two can play at that game!!!


97 posted on 04/12/2017 12:15:15 AM PDT by Morgana ( Always a bit of truth in dark humor.)
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To: Morgana

This is a failure of United to grasp the nature of the free market. They needed four seats but were unwilling to recognize a sellers market when it presented itself to them. To get the seats they needed, all they needed to do was find the right price. Obviously, it was not $1000 in future flight vouchers. Perhaps had they upped the offer or offered cash instead, four passengers would have found the offer acceptable and the adequate number of seats would have become available without resorting to force. They lacked negotiating skills, or simply got frustrated that their offer was falling on deaf ears.


98 posted on 04/12/2017 1:43:16 AM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: Morgana

Apparently. He has a standing with the World Series of Poker [WSOP], players club.

He primarily played no-limit Texas Hold-em during that span.

Dao Was Convicted of Prescribing a Patient With Painkillers In Exchange for Sex in Louisville

Before His Drug Convictions, Dao, Who Fled Vietnam to Come to America, Treated Patients at a Hospital & Owned His Own Practice

One Patient Ended Up Working For Dao At His Practice & Quit Because of Sexual Advances Made By Him, He Said In a Criminal Complaint

He even pursued a career as a chef/cook.

In addition to the above convictions, Dao was indicted in Nelson County with eight felony counts of obtaining controlled substances by fraud and deceit and eight more of complicity to obtain controlled substances by fraud and deceit. Those charges were all dismissed in April 2005.

https://scallywagandvagabond.com/2017/04/dr-david-dao-poker-gambling-medical-license/

Sounds like an angel to me.


99 posted on 04/12/2017 2:40:58 AM PDT by Daffynition ("The New PTSD: Post-Trump Stress Disorder" - The MLN didn't make Trump, so they can't break Trump.)
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To: LydiaLong

100 posted on 04/12/2017 3:03:59 AM PDT by Daffynition ("The New PTSD: Post-Trump Stress Disorder" - The MLN didn't make Trump, so they can't break Trump.)
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