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(vanity) Did I just hear on the news, the guy taken off the UA flight, was to keep a UA employee on?
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| 4/11/2017
Posted on 04/11/2017 12:09:34 AM PDT by cba123
OK.
Sorry for the vanity.
I am just checking however, recently UA by way of the police, pulled (physically) a paying passenger out of a flight recently. He was actually dragged off the plane.
The plane was over-booked. The airline did some sort of lottery, and the guy lost.
Now I get that things happen, and I get that the flight was overbooked (not a good thing, from my view) but I think I just heard a report that this was partly due to a UA employee reservation, being kept.
On a nationwide, live news program.
So the guy was pulled out of the plane, so a free/discount employee could fly?
Is that true?
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This story is pretty big right at the moment, but this was the first I (think) I heard that a UA employee was on the flight, so the paying passenger was bumped?
I am not sure of this. But that is what I (think) I just heard on television.
Anyone know if this is true?
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posted on
04/11/2017 12:09:35 AM PDT
by
cba123
To: cba123
Not just one United employee, but four.
They overbooked the flight and voluntold four people to leave.
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posted on
04/11/2017 12:11:07 AM PDT
by
Darksheare
(Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same.)
To: cba123
Not so fast.
Employees and family fly on standby. Meaning a seat has to be available.
Employees on duty fly priority.
It seems shitty, but you know what, When told to get off a plane get of the ‘effing plane.
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posted on
04/11/2017 12:19:09 AM PDT
by
Fhios
To: cba123
From what I understand (and was a former employee..) the 4 employees were not flying for free (non rev). They were needed to crew another flight. If they had not made it to their destination an entire plane (and the passengers) would not have gotten off the ground.
Not excusing it, as in the days I worked there they would have handled it differently (like increasing the voucher amount until someone did take the offer to change flights).
The actions of the police officer was also out of line. He went way too far and should be fired.
Complete failure of overbooking analysis, crew manpower planning and customer service. I would have fired all involved. But I don't work there anymore and it's since turned into a turd.
To: cba123; Darksheare
Not exactly true. . . they pulled four paying passengers off, three who they pointed out to “volunteer” and the one they hauled out so they could seat four employees on standby, waiting to board.
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posted on
04/11/2017 12:20:53 AM PDT
by
Swordmaker
(This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
To: cba123
The story told....I won’t say it’s true or not....is that four crew members were being sent to the destination to take over for a flight or two that required a new ‘rested’ crew.
The mistake made here is that they’d allowed everyone to board the plane before making this decision (badly executed). Every occasion that I’ve seen over-booking...about 30 min before the boarding...they start to offer deals. In mornings and afternoons....they never have a problem in getting people to take the deal. After 7PM, it’s like a root canal and no one wants to accept these deals unless you throw in a free hotel for the night and $300 in vouchers.
To: cba123
Thank goodness you started this vanity thread about the United Airlines situation.
Nobody is talking about this story and there is nowhere on FreeRepublic to post this insight.
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posted on
04/11/2017 12:23:10 AM PDT
by
Blue Jays
( Rock hard ~ Ride free)
To: cba123
Yes. Flight was overbooked and paying passenger got pulled to make room:
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posted on
04/11/2017 12:24:34 AM PDT
by
Helicondelta
(Deplorable)
To: cba123
How would you like to be the “employee” that sits in the seat where the guy just got beat up so you could fly?
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posted on
04/11/2017 12:24:50 AM PDT
by
JParris
To: StolarStorm
From what I understand (and was a former employee..) the 4 employees were not flying for free (non rev). They were needed to crew another flight. If they had not made it to their destination an entire plane (and the passengers) would not have gotten off the ground. I thought it was something like that. . . and they should have kept upping the reward to include cash and vouchers until someone volunteered to wait another flight.
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posted on
04/11/2017 12:27:23 AM PDT
by
Swordmaker
(This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
To: Blue Jays
Nobody is talking about this story and there is nowhere on FreeRepublic to post this insight. That's odd. I think I've seen several threads on it, and it's all over YouTube and most chat threads elsewhere. It's dominating the Internet tonight. Anyway, United & their subcontractors screwed up bigtime, and deserve the bad publicity. I'm joining the boycott, and will not fly United again.
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posted on
04/11/2017 12:36:21 AM PDT
by
roadcat
To: cba123
They offered $1000 for volunteers to leave.
To: cba123
I heard a report that he was a doctor, who said that he had patients in the the morning that he could not miss, so he could not take a later flight.
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posted on
04/11/2017 12:40:39 AM PDT
by
BeauBo
To: Fhios
I do not fly for business, i will not fly for vacations. Screw the airlines.
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posted on
04/11/2017 12:41:40 AM PDT
by
exnavy
To: Blue Jays
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posted on
04/11/2017 12:41:56 AM PDT
by
roadcat
To: XHogPilot
Seems to me, they should have offered 1500 next.
That’s just me. But they really screwed up. They should have paid in this instance, I think.
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posted on
04/11/2017 12:42:15 AM PDT
by
cba123
( Toi la nguoi My. Toi bay gio o Viet Nam.)
To: cba123
There were four aircrew that needed to get to the destination. Nobody wanted to give up their seats. The doctor was on-call or had patients (surgery?) the next morning so he couldn’t stay overnight. The airline held some sort of random choosing thing, and ordered those people off. When the doctor refused to give up his seat, they should have just picked another number and asked that next person to leave. And they should have done it before they loaded. Or, even better, they should have put the aircrew on a different flight - or a private flight if necessary. Their scheduling problem, and nasty habit of overbooking 10+%, shouldn’t have resulted in a passenger being dragged off a plane unconscious and in shock.
Airlines I think are frozen in what they can offer monetarily - 3 times the one-way ticket I think. So, now they get to offer this passenger a few million and free flights for life. And they’ll have plenty of seats for their air crew; as people cancel their tickets and go with another carrier.
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posted on
04/11/2017 12:44:26 AM PDT
by
blueplum
("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017)
To: BeauBo
Yep. This man had a VERY valid reason to get back to work as soon as possible. For all we know he has patients in critical care needing his attention.
I also have some disdain though for passengers (ones not with a demanding timeline ... retired, ect.) not standing up and taking his place. I would have. But then, since I did work for an airline, giving up a seat was commonplace for me so I don't think much of it. A few hours delay or an overnight stay was/is not a big deal for me...
To: blueplum
I have to admit something here... ugh. I was involved in software that analysed how much overbooking per flight was feasible. Granted it was years ago and I'm sure my code has since been trashed.
But dammit, I erred on the side of caution... and at the time (under Gordon Bethune) we were allowed as employees to override "rules" like voucher limits and other things that could have resolved this issue. Empower your employees and trust their judgment. If you can't, don't hire them.
To: cba123
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posted on
04/11/2017 12:55:41 AM PDT
by
Yaelle
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