Homeowner who found a 'naked' teacher's aide taking a SHOWER in his house, left to get....

daily mail uk ^ | April 5, 2017 | Emily Crane and Hannah Parry For Dailymail.com

[Morgana]

FULL TITLE: Homeowner who found a 'naked' teacher's aide taking a SHOWER in his house, left to get his gun and then returned to shoot the 'intruder' dead through the bath curtain is charged with murder

An intruder who was shot dead by a homeowner after breaking in and using the shower has been identified as a 31-year-old teacher's aide.

Nathaniel Joseph Rosa was killed on Saturday morning inside the bathroom of a property in Belfair, Washington.

The man who owns the property has been charged with murder.

Police said the homeowner, who has not been named, called 911 shortly after 8am on Saturday and told the dispatcher he had shot an intruder.

[jr3000]

“”Would he have shot the intruder if it was a naked FEMALE teacher’s aide? Now it sounds like an erotic fantasy.””

His testosterone was bursting downstairs when he saw flesh in his shower. Then his ego bursts when he finds out that its some ugly ass guy. So he went back and got his gun to shoot the intruder’s manhood. Take that big duck man! Yer duck is bleeding now hahaha!
And then his testosterone got used up and he called the cops on himself.

[RegulatorCountry]

My guess, he was a hiker and a leftist who put little store in private property. He saw an unoccupied house, needed a shower and broke in to take one.

[CommerceComet]

I would not vote for Murder 1 as a jury member, but a lesser charge is justified.

Why not? Ample evidence of intent on the shooter's part. I'm sure the guy's attorneys will negotiate a plea bargain to get murder one off the table. His attorneys will not want this to go to trial.

[dainbramaged]

A photo of the shooter being arraigned - I've done jury duty in that courtroom.
http://www.ifiberonenewsradio.com/news/local_news/belfair-area-man-faces-first-degree-murder-charge-in-shooting/article_fffe1e30-18c0-11e7-be6d-932002c01296.html

[Morgana]

You know what I mean. Home owners in Texas don’t mess around. Have read stories where one home owner shot an intruder entering his neighbor’s home and was cleared. The man he shot? You guessed it! Illegals with multiple priors.

[Morgana]

“Would he have shot the intruder if it was a naked FEMALE teacher’s aide? Now it sounds like an erotic fantasy.”

It’s actually happened and was women Laz would not hit!!

[Morgana]

“Did he know the guy? Was he covering up a homosexual affair/fling? Just wondering.

It just seems like something major is missing from this story.”

The more go back and re-read this story have to agree is something strange about it. Did he freak out that much over someone being in his home? OR yes did he know this man? There have been people in the past to be on drugs and do what this man did, break into homes and take showers and do other odd ball stuff, still something is off.

[stremba]

Ok, you could probably add breaking and entering, but the point still stands, you don’t have the right to use lethal force simply because someone is on your property without your permission. There has to be the threat of death or serious injury. The shooter in this case lost all justification for lethal force when he successfully left the house where the intruder was. Leaving the premises eliminated any potential threat.

[Howie66]

I see where you are coming from. That said, the homeowner was able to freely leave, get his gun and then return. That means that he did have a clear cut alternative to shooting the perp.

Your solution is the right one. One that would NOT result in being charged with murder.

[Jacquerie]

To enter my castle without my permission is suicide.

[Celtic Conservative]

The property was not the shooters residence. it was his place of business. The shooter confronted him. He wouldn’t leave. The shooter does not call the cops, goes home, gets a pistol and then shoots the trespasser without further warning.

CC

[Celtic Conservative]

Yes it would’ve and the property owner would still be charged. The law doesn’t vary that much.

CC

[archy]

My guess, he was a hiker and a leftist who put little store in private property. He saw an unoccupied house, needed a shower and broke in to take one.

Pretty close. The occupation of the deceased housebreaker was listed as being a *elementary School paraeducator*, aka public school special needs teacher's assistant. And he was indeed quite a hiker, since he was about a 2-hour drive from his own home in Seattle. He was about half the age of the homeowner, a good deal larger, and an amateur bodybuilder and weightlifter. He was a resident of the Seattle-area suburb of Bothell, Wash.,about a two-hour drive northeast of Fanning's properties in Mason County.

Bruce Fanning, 59, homeowner on the left. Housebreaker Nathaniel Joseph Rosa, 31, on the right. It may be instructive to see what the results from the blood and toxicology screens are for both the shooter and the 0800 AM intruder who kicked in the house's front door.

[archy]

“Did he know the guy? Was he covering up a homosexual affair/fling? Just wondering.

Doesn't look like it; it would have been leaked by now. And if it was a gay-on-gay shooting, the media cartels would have dropped it like a hot potatoe.

It just seems like something major is missing from this story.”

Among the possibilities still under investigation as to why the deceased was in an apparent stranger's house some two hours away from Seattle where he resided was that there was a party a few houses down from the owner's residence the previous evening. It's not at all clear why the deceased would have left during the evening or early morning, but he may have been so blitzed that he was disoriented and mistook one house for another, especially in the early morning light of dawn. And, believing he was in the home belonging to his friend/partypal, would have understandably been quite surprised by some old guy coming into his friend's home telling him to get out.

No word yet on the precise nature of the party/celebration or what substances were consumed, but the coroner's toxicology screen should determine that in about 3 weeks. It's also unclear why he would have kicked in the door to gain entry into a house where he believed his friend/s were inside....

[21twelve]

The law in Washington state says reasonable force (including homicide) can be used in defense of property. The problem with this shooting would be the “reasonable” aspect of it. Shooting a presumably naked guy taking a shower seems pretty unreasonable. I suppose threatening to whack his shin with a 2x4 to get him to turn off YOUR water (your property) would have been reasonable.

If it was me I would have called 911 and went back and made sure he didn’t damage anything more or try to steal anything and wait for the cops to arrive. If he was that drunk or drugged out he may have finished his shower and then crashed on the couch.

This house looks to be about 17 miles from the nearest police station - 1/3 of it country roads - so maybe 20 minutes away if they aren’t cruising around nearby. In Washington state the owner could have made a citizen’s arrest if need be.

RCW 9A.16.110
Defending against violent crime—Reimbursement.

(1) No person in the state shall be placed in legal jeopardy of any kind whatsoever for protecting by any reasonable means necessary, himself or herself, his or her family, or his or her real or personal property, or for coming to the aid of another who is in imminent danger of or the victim of assault, robbery, kidnapping, arson, burglary, rape, murder, or any other violent crime as defined in RCW 9.94A.030.

[jazv]

The problem is that he left the house , went to get a gun and came back with intent to kill(2nd degree manslaughter).
If you leave and comeback, you loose that imminent danger.
If he had done anything but shoot through shower curtain he might have had a chance at self defense.
But then this is west coast.

The person by the way, yesterday was “an intruder”, but teacher is more dramatic.