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Ask a Boss: How Do I Shut Up a Mansplainer?
New York Magazine ^ | March 21, 2017 | Alison Green

Posted on 03/21/2017 8:40:43 PM PDT by nickcarraway

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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

“What the heck is mansplaining?”

Being right.


21 posted on 03/21/2017 10:02:02 PM PDT by PLMerite (Lord, let me die fighting lions. Amen)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

“What the heck is mansplaining?”

A term that sexists use to blame behavior that annoys them on someone’s sex.


22 posted on 03/21/2017 10:52:04 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: nickcarraway

A loudmouth male is obviously a sexist mamsplainer. These snowflakes are useless. They have no ability to deal with everyday behavior.


23 posted on 03/21/2017 10:54:38 PM PDT by Organic Panic (Flinging poo is not a valid argument)
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To: blueplum

Great answer to her letter. Spot on.


24 posted on 03/21/2017 11:26:02 PM PDT by koalkracker1981
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To: nickcarraway
I managed a multitude of people in a multitude of fields and industries since I was in my early twenties. First Fergus' behavior is what the usual 90 day probation period is for in many new jobs (I'm speaking specifically in corporate America and equivalent jobs.). If he has behaviors that aren't a good fit for the job, team, or company, most likely he should be let go.

It's nice to see people care enough to try to work with him a bit and just practicing assertiveness with this guy by several team leaders and he still not changing is a major red flag. Giving him a little time to get ramped up while also providing feedback and clarification meetings during the probation will also allow both he and the management to feel he has been given plenty of guidance, time, and opportunity. If he doesn't change. Well it's time to go.

Lastly in pretty much EVERY work environment a certain amount of men young and men old and men of the same age balk at or in some way get in conflict with powerful females or women whose job just happens to be in charge. But those same men are just that way. And some men truly do not like a women that they perceive to be more powerful to be that way. So their egos get all puffed up and reactive. If you're a woman and you're naturally a leader you get flamed a lot. And you deal with it and actually grow used to it. I grew up with lots of men. And my dad was an alpha and I'm just like him. (I'm submissive in other arenas ;D) So. It just is. Having said that I have always been super attractive and intelligent and talented. Thus my experience too has been the same BS can come from women because they are either threatened or jealous. And some of my worst bosses have been females and some of my most supportive bosses and teachers have been male. So the world can get real complicated real quick when one is a leader and a female. Make her naturally, friendly, sexy, fun, smart, and super conscientious and driven and you'll have plenty of flack coming from everywhere for a variety of different reasons.

Having said all this. Notice I NEVER really mentioned age? Personalities are personalities. We all have them :D. Old school has some redeeming qualities and new school has some redeeming qualities. Both have drawbacks. Women that are true, life time leaders that buck the system with innovation and power understand you will get plenty of blow back and plenty of people's stuff throw at you. None of which is to be taken personal. In the end it's what it best for the job and the company.

Fergus may mellow. But what's most important here is he is repeating misinformation in an informational role. Does his over talking also interfere with that delivery of information that is critical to his job? Well then if he doesn't mellow. Probably best to let him go at some point no matter what his age or gender. Life really IS that simple. And thank God!!! We're all human.

25 posted on 03/22/2017 12:14:07 AM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: bigbob

Yep. Stay out of his safe-space.


26 posted on 03/22/2017 12:20:30 AM PDT by Theophilus (Repent)
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To: nickcarraway
A smart employee learns the company's protocols and processes first, then applies their knowledge within those parameters to improve things.

This older gentleman isn't being smart. He won't last.

27 posted on 03/22/2017 12:32:28 AM PDT by TheWriterTX (Trust not in earthly princes....)
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To: right way right

I would have sent him out for donuts and burgers for everyone


28 posted on 03/22/2017 12:46:23 AM PDT by atc23 (The Confederacy was the single greatest conservative resistance to federal authority ever)
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To: Ellendra

Exactly, I’ve seen awful “splainers” of both sexes. It is very sexist propaganda from the feminists to pretend it is only men who do it. Worst when someone doesn’t know all they think they know, but it can still be disruptive even if the person is very competent.

Best AND worst bosses I’ve had have been female. Nothing worse than putting an arrogant Feminazi in charge of a “mixed” work group. Women executives with good self-knowledge and self-control can be awesome, same goes for men.


29 posted on 03/22/2017 2:06:45 AM PDT by Enchante (Libtards are enemies of true civilization!)
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To: nickcarraway

How is this “mansplaining”? I’ve worked with people like this in almost every job I’ve held ... male and female alike. This isn’t a gender thing. It’s more of a passive-aggressive know-it-all mentality.


30 posted on 03/22/2017 3:31:36 AM PDT by al_c (Obama's standing in the world has fallen so much that Kenya now claims he was born in America.)
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I’m a woman in my mid-30s and my team has been fantastic about supporting me as I enter this new managerial role (I do not have direct reports, but I manage the function).

I don't know how to tell this bitch, BUT, without PEOPLE reporting to you, you are NOT a manager, you are a trainer.

I've worked for women managers and company owners, and have no problem with strong, smart women, but this whiner makes me sick {and tired}.

31 posted on 03/22/2017 3:34:47 AM PDT by USS Alaska (Kill all mooselimb, terrorist savages, with extreme prejudice! Deus Vult!)
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To: nickcarraway

Geez 10 paragraphs to cover a simple question. I think that is the problem.


32 posted on 03/22/2017 3:40:13 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: nickcarraway

Did you at least bring bagels to the meeting?

Or does that have to be mansplained to you....

Twit.


33 posted on 03/22/2017 3:57:40 AM PDT by Adder (Mr. Franklin: We are trying to get the Republic back!)
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Fergus needs to let trainees know that he is the new trainer - because he is.

Wrong.

You need to go back and reread the article. SHE is the trainer. It is her NEW position. Fergus is the trainee, hired to fill her OLD position. SHE has been tasked with training HIM.

34 posted on 03/22/2017 4:19:34 AM PDT by Alas Babylon! (Keep fighting the Left and their Fake News!)
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To: nickcarraway

Anyone using the term “mansplaining” is a man-hating leftist and IMO is unfit for a management position.


35 posted on 03/22/2017 4:30:14 AM PDT by Brooklyn Attitude (The first step in ending the War on White People, is to recognize it exists.)
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To: nickcarraway

A woman boss complaining about a man who does not let her get a word in edgewise????

KARMA!!

A younger aged woman being a boss of a man some years her senior?

He’s being pussified by her!


36 posted on 03/22/2017 4:33:54 AM PDT by Terry L Smith
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To: USS Alaska

She does not manage people. She manages a function.

That means those who promoted her probably chose to not promote her into the management of people because they saw she was a good worker... just not skilled at managing people. Nothing wrong with that. Just be honest about why you were promoted to manage a function that has no people to manage.


37 posted on 03/22/2017 4:46:34 AM PDT by spintreebob
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To: Major Matt Mason

Oh, “onboarding” is all the rage now. The managers and HR department talk about it incessantly, even here in Alabama. What they want to do, actually, is indoctrinate everyone in political correctness and feminism, and force them to accept LGBTQ as normal. I’m getting too old for this crap.


38 posted on 03/22/2017 7:15:31 AM PDT by backwoods-engineer (Trump won; I celebrated; I'm good. Let's get on with the civil war now.)
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To: Maceman

She sure used a lot of words to tell that short story, didn’t she?


39 posted on 03/22/2017 7:18:53 AM PDT by OKSooner (It's always loaded.)
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To: nickcarraway

One last thing, too. You wrote that you’re troubled to think that your age and gender could underlie Fergus’s disrespect for you. And they very well could! In fact, I’m curious to know whether he works with any men close to his age and, if so, whether he behaves any differently with them.

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There’s a Fergus in every group. I taught adult Bible Classes for many years. I well remember the “Fergus” I had.

She should not worry about her age and gender being the cause of disrespect. Fergus would act this way with an older man also.

She is doing the right thing here. Let him sulk if he wants to.


40 posted on 03/22/2017 7:57:29 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd
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