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To: Swordmaker
OH BOVINE EXCREMENT!

You and others are pushing, pushing, PUSHING all of these gadgets and making wild claims about me and anyone else, who isn't as crazed about them, as you are.

To begin with, all I posted was that I don't have one, don't need nor want one, and for that, I got trashed.

It is very insulting to keep telling me that "YOU DON'T GET OUT MUCH", YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT", "YOU DON'T HAVE A CLUE XXXX ( supply any number of things )" and more; not to mention your pathetic, somewhat hysterical, and insane claim about "morality"!

I have written about many of the down side of iPads and iPhones...all of which have been ignored.

I am quoting many recent studies ( which, of course, you'll now poo poo re the changes in the brain ) regarding spending a great deal of time on a screen, especially for children and teens. Unlike the old canard re watching T.V. sitting too close to the screen, making one's eyesight bad....being on a computer, iPad, iPhone DOSE indeed change many people's eyesight for the worse.

Oh I know, full well what can be done on these electronic devices, I just don't want to do them. I don't "condemn" others for doing them; unlike you and your ilk, who ARE trashing, impugning, and condemning me for MY choices in life. And as much as you might imagine that you are either cowing me, or making me change my mind, I'm sitting here even MORE certain that you are making one hell of a stupid case, in order to force me and others into a position, by the absolute WRONG way to convince anyone of anything at all. LOL

You have no idea how long I have tried, nor on which instruments, that use touch screens. I also have had many decades long problems using a mouse and I have tried several different sizes of those, to no avail. Oh I did manage to get a bit better with a mouse...but that's really not saying much. Your 95 year old mother and I are two different people, with different abilities and even when she was much younger, I doubt that she could do things that I can. People have different skills!

Why is it SOOOOOOOOOO important, to you, that I should be what YOU want me to be? I haven't demanded that you, nor anyone else give up using an iPad, an iPhone, nor anything else! Go ahead....play games, listen to music, read whatever books you care to on whatever instrument you care to and I'll do what I want to do and in the long run, unlike you, I'll be a much happier, more civil, better person than you are or shall ever be. And yes, that IS a put down; but the truth!

You keep claiming that I don't know anything, yet, YOU are claiming that books haven't been taken off of lists on Kindle or Amazon books. They have been and articles about that and the storm it creates, were all over this site, in newspapers, and yes, even on the news several years ago! The books were finally reinstated, but there were battles over that. It's not my fault that you are so ill informed. *snicker*

Just because something is new/the latest thing/makes things easier ( but obviously not for everyone !), doesn't mean that it is superior for what it replaced.

Children now have a difficult time, telling time, from clocks that aren't digital. THAT IS A PROBLEM!

That specious canard re buggy whips is just plain old stupid ; not to mention puerile and proves that you are having even greater difficulty attempting to refute my position, for MYSELF.

Everything you do on an iPad, and iPhone, laptop, and computer is now easily traceable and yes, even hacked and will come out, unless you are protected as the Clintons are; or not, if your are Podesta. LOL

Personally, I don't worry about any of that, but perhaps some people should.

Since your disabilities making reading actual books, for any length of time, difficult for you, you should, by all means, read things in a way that is more comfortable for you. OTOH, you don't have the right, nor the moral high ground to tell others what to think nor what to do. And no, I didn't do that.

104 posted on 03/21/2017 8:05:34 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: nopardons
You keep claiming that I don't know anything, yet, YOU are claiming that books haven't been taken off of lists on Kindle or Amazon books. They have been and articles about that and the storm it creates, were all over this site, in newspapers, and yes, even on the news several years ago! The books were finally reinstated, but there were battles over that. It's not my fault that you are so ill informed. *snicker*

You got abuse because you were abusive, nopardons.

Who was talking about Amazon or kindle, I certainly wasn't but this is just the kind of assumption you've made all along about us. . . and your superior attitude of making assumptions that one thing was all there was. It's NOT. There are numerous sources for books other than Amazon where these books were not deleted as you assumed and where they have always been available, as I stated, but which YOU DECLARED ME ILL INFORMED when with every post you've typed you've screamed your ignorance of us and our preferred platforms and technology. . . taking an extreme LUDDITE position, finding and pushing every negative position you could raise. You really don't know what you are talking about but you assume you know it all because YOU can't see how useful they can be.

You claim to be "quoting" articles, but you don't cite them. That kind of non-argument gets the result it deserves. Derision. You declare downsides we have NOT experienced in many years of using these devices, downsides that are NOT what we have experienced or seen. . . and are contrary to reality. Those who have joined you in your derision are, essentially, also non-users. What are we to conclude but that you are making things up out of your ignorance and non-experience. . . and you keep on repeating it. That is the hallmark of a thread troll.

Finally, after numerous posts, you claim you have a tablet lying around collecting dust. I don't know if I can even believe that.

You offer no evidence but your unsupported ex cathedra opinions, of which you have many, against our educated and experiencial and working knowledge, gained in using these devices in our gainful employment and productive lives. YOU are a dilettante, who has assumed that he is an expert on something he does not use. That gets you no where. Not here, after years of the thread Anti-Apple trolls expounding the SAME OLD IGNORANT TRIPE.

Children now have a difficult time, telling time, from clocks that aren't digital. THAT IS A PROBLEM!

I agree. . .

Children can't tell time from analog clocks because the government school teachers and these children's parents haven't TAUGHT THEM. My mother taught me to tell time when I was three years old. Why haven't theirs? But, nopardons, it's not the fault of an iPad or any other device. Did you now that Apple watches have analog faces on 85% of the dial choices.

I HAVE refuted your claim that the iPad is "useless." And the canard about the buggy whip is to the point. The publishers of paper books are in trouble due to the rise of e-books. I was on Apple's side in the law suit against Amazon attempting to lower the price of eBook to the point that it was no longer economical for regularly published books to compete, or even be published. WE LOST due to a wrongly decided Appellate and then Supreme Court decision. . . which held that Apple had somehow acted in an anti-competitive manner against the truly monopolistic and price fixing Amazon who was selling eBooks below cost forcing the brick and mortar stores out of business. Eventually, paper and bound books will be a niche market for aficionado's just like the small market in buggy whips that still exists for those people who still use buggies. See, it wasn't stupid or missing the point. You just missed it.

I still read real books. Sometimes I prefer them. But I am NOT trying to force my opinion on you. I am arguing your claim that iPads are useless, a specious ignorant claim YOU made. Ignorance is curable. I have won that argument. . . and perhaps educated you a bit. A lot of your points are well taken.

Have a good evening, nopardons.

111 posted on 03/21/2017 9:50:35 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: nopardons
Everything you do on an iPad, and iPhone, laptop, and computer is now easily traceable and yes, even hacked and will come out, unless you are protected as the Clintons are; or not, if your are Podesta. LOL

Now you have moved into the realm of real trolls . . . making up claims that are demonstrably false. There is no evidence of such a claim being true, Wikileaks or no. The FBI wound up paying a large amount of money to get into ONE iPhone 5c, which was 4 year old technology at the time with an old operating system. The Wikileaks data covers mostly already closed iOS vulnerabilities for past versions.

114 posted on 03/21/2017 10:38:16 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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