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To: nopardons
You keep claiming that I don't know anything, yet, YOU are claiming that books haven't been taken off of lists on Kindle or Amazon books. They have been and articles about that and the storm it creates, were all over this site, in newspapers, and yes, even on the news several years ago! The books were finally reinstated, but there were battles over that. It's not my fault that you are so ill informed. *snicker*

You got abuse because you were abusive, nopardons.

Who was talking about Amazon or kindle, I certainly wasn't but this is just the kind of assumption you've made all along about us. . . and your superior attitude of making assumptions that one thing was all there was. It's NOT. There are numerous sources for books other than Amazon where these books were not deleted as you assumed and where they have always been available, as I stated, but which YOU DECLARED ME ILL INFORMED when with every post you've typed you've screamed your ignorance of us and our preferred platforms and technology. . . taking an extreme LUDDITE position, finding and pushing every negative position you could raise. You really don't know what you are talking about but you assume you know it all because YOU can't see how useful they can be.

You claim to be "quoting" articles, but you don't cite them. That kind of non-argument gets the result it deserves. Derision. You declare downsides we have NOT experienced in many years of using these devices, downsides that are NOT what we have experienced or seen. . . and are contrary to reality. Those who have joined you in your derision are, essentially, also non-users. What are we to conclude but that you are making things up out of your ignorance and non-experience. . . and you keep on repeating it. That is the hallmark of a thread troll.

Finally, after numerous posts, you claim you have a tablet lying around collecting dust. I don't know if I can even believe that.

You offer no evidence but your unsupported ex cathedra opinions, of which you have many, against our educated and experiencial and working knowledge, gained in using these devices in our gainful employment and productive lives. YOU are a dilettante, who has assumed that he is an expert on something he does not use. That gets you no where. Not here, after years of the thread Anti-Apple trolls expounding the SAME OLD IGNORANT TRIPE.

Children now have a difficult time, telling time, from clocks that aren't digital. THAT IS A PROBLEM!

I agree. . .

Children can't tell time from analog clocks because the government school teachers and these children's parents haven't TAUGHT THEM. My mother taught me to tell time when I was three years old. Why haven't theirs? But, nopardons, it's not the fault of an iPad or any other device. Did you now that Apple watches have analog faces on 85% of the dial choices.

I HAVE refuted your claim that the iPad is "useless." And the canard about the buggy whip is to the point. The publishers of paper books are in trouble due to the rise of e-books. I was on Apple's side in the law suit against Amazon attempting to lower the price of eBook to the point that it was no longer economical for regularly published books to compete, or even be published. WE LOST due to a wrongly decided Appellate and then Supreme Court decision. . . which held that Apple had somehow acted in an anti-competitive manner against the truly monopolistic and price fixing Amazon who was selling eBooks below cost forcing the brick and mortar stores out of business. Eventually, paper and bound books will be a niche market for aficionado's just like the small market in buggy whips that still exists for those people who still use buggies. See, it wasn't stupid or missing the point. You just missed it.

I still read real books. Sometimes I prefer them. But I am NOT trying to force my opinion on you. I am arguing your claim that iPads are useless, a specious ignorant claim YOU made. Ignorance is curable. I have won that argument. . . and perhaps educated you a bit. A lot of your points are well taken.

Have a good evening, nopardons.

111 posted on 03/21/2017 9:50:35 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: Swordmaker
I must truly have set ablaze a whole number of your super sensitive nerves; snowflake.

You aren't familiar with everything I posted to this thread, because you probably just look for something/s to cherry-pick and then blast away. You're just too too funny for words! LOL

We were given that stupid iPad, even though neither of us wanted it, by people who were trying to be kind...THEIR KIND OF "KIND"; forcing something on us, that we didn't want and said so. Yes, it has been tried out and it has sat in a room, untouched,unused, and useless; a waste of money ( which annoys me greatly ), because we have two computers, two laptops, and two iPhones. Neither of us watch movies or T.V. shows on anything but T.V.s, never use the thing to play music on, nor anything else. Neither of us are infirm, like you, so we are able to read books; real books.

The articles that I mentioned are real; it's not my fault, nor my problem, that you don't know of their existence and if you don't believe me, you can always look them up, using GOOGLE, BING, any other internet explorer, or even, FR's archive feature.

I have only been "abusive" ( and not anywhere near the hysteric level, you have been ) when "abused" forf several replies.

ROTFLMSO...calling me a "thread troll" is even funnier than the rest of the puerile, supercilious,projection complex induced persiflage you started out with. This escalation of pejorative snipping isn't helping you...not on any level. Oh perhaps in making yourself look even more foolish, but that's it. *snicker*

You keep making claims about me, that only exist in your troubled mind. You take great umbrage over my not being a sheep and bowing to your only imagined superiority, in choices and lifetstyle. You accuse me of saying that which I didn't say, and taking out your built up anger at those whom you call "APPLE TROLLS",when I am not only not one of them, but didn't condemn Apple, nor those who are gobsmacked over iPads.

Yes,most parents, today, have abrogated their responsibilities. OTOH, it was teachers who were complaining that their students had great difficulty trying to tell time on a non-digital clock. That article was posted here, on this site, just a few days ago.

I have repeatedly said that I find iPads useless. And for ME they are. I have posted that you you, as well, over and over again, yet as with many other things I have said on this thread, you ignore this and claim the opposite. And yet, you ares incapable of just letting this go. I wonder why that is....some mental disorder, no doubt.

Listen diddums...your specious, calumny filled , laughable posts are not only dumb, but boring. I hope you feel better, having now somehow exculpated your own inadequacies, by trying to use me as your whipping boy, or whatever horror, buried is buried deep within you....or whatever the problem really is. If not, trying baying at the moon.

113 posted on 03/21/2017 10:22:27 PM PDT by nopardons
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