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Thousands Gather in Remembrance of World War II destruction of Dresden
Deutsche Welle ^ | 2/13

Posted on 02/13/2017 4:33:00 PM PST by nickcarraway

Dresden's mayor has used the event to remind participants of the brutalities of war, even in the 21st century. During World War II, Allied forces firebombed the German city of Dresden, leaving 25,000 people dead.

Around 12,000 people on Monday gathered in Dresden and joined hands to form a human chain in a message of "peace and reconciliation" marking the anniversary of the deadly firebombing of the city by Allied forces towards the end of the Second World War.

The act aimed at reminding the participants of the brutal bombing, considered one of the Allied forces more controversial acts during the war.

"In this world, several conflicts are being carried out in a warlike manner and human rights are being trampled on," said Dresden Mayor Dirk Hilbert.

"This suffering affects us directly in a globalized world," he added, placing a white rose on a memorial of the controversial attack.

(Excerpt) Read more at dw.com ...


TOPICS: History; Local News
KEYWORDS: bbq; germany; justiceservedhot; military; napalm4nazis; weinerroast; worldwarii
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I wonder if David Irving was there?
1 posted on 02/13/2017 4:33:00 PM PST by nickcarraway
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Bump for later.


2 posted on 02/13/2017 4:33:50 PM PST by SouthParkRepublican
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Springtime for Hitler and Germany...


3 posted on 02/13/2017 4:36:18 PM PST by MrEdd (MrEdd)
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They asked for it. Kurt Vonneget would disagree.


4 posted on 02/13/2017 4:38:01 PM PST by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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To: nickcarraway

Germany wanted Total War and the Allies obliged.


5 posted on 02/13/2017 4:38:06 PM PST by Psycho_Runner (I never voted for change, I prefer folding money.)
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Nailed It !

6 posted on 02/13/2017 4:39:53 PM PST by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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Yup. If every city and town in Germany had been turned into a Dresden as early as 1943 the war might have ended sooner.


7 posted on 02/13/2017 4:47:07 PM PST by jmacusa (Election 2016. The Battle of Midway for The Democrat Party.)
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To: nickcarraway

No, he was investigating the Holocaust crematoriums to debunk the stories on how many people could be cremated at one time.


8 posted on 02/13/2017 4:51:48 PM PST by SkyDancer (Ambition Without Talent Is Sad, Talent Without Ambition Is Worse)
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9 posted on 02/13/2017 4:51:52 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: nickcarraway

Dresden is also the setting for the greatest novella in history, “The Golden Pot” by E.T.A. Hoffmann.


10 posted on 02/13/2017 4:52:27 PM PST by MUDDOG
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After the war there was a story about this German woman who accosted a GI and yelled at him that if the Allies would have given up sooner none of this would have happened.


11 posted on 02/13/2017 4:53:36 PM PST by SkyDancer (Ambition Without Talent Is Sad, Talent Without Ambition Is Worse)
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Malmady.

5.56mm


12 posted on 02/13/2017 4:55:41 PM PST by M Kehoe
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The event that inspired "Slaughterhouse Five."

But I understand the Dresden firebombing was in retaliation for the Luftwaffe's bombing of Coventry, an English city with no military significance whatsoever.

And then there was that "Blitz" thing ...

13 posted on 02/13/2017 5:00:34 PM PST by IronJack
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This is the one that left Churchill turning against further area bombing of German cities. The city had almost no strategic value and did not house significant war industries. At the time, the Russians were advancing rapidly through Poland and into eastern Germany. They would arrive on the Oder, 40 miles from Berlin, on March 30. There was little military reason for the raids.

There was no point in further bombing of cities to degrade German "morale." The people had no stomach for the war by this time. But, since the plot to kill Hitler was botched, the Hitlerite dictatorship ruthlessly enforced discipline and the people had no say whether to lay down arms. Hitler, Himmler, Goebbels and the rest knew if they were ever captured alive they would be executed, so they were determined to fight to the last.

Yes, the Germans started the area bombing and "asked for it." We repaid them in full and with considerable interest.

14 posted on 02/13/2017 5:05:38 PM PST by colorado tanker
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Damn straight. God bless Sir Arthur and all his brave aircrew.


15 posted on 02/13/2017 5:08:12 PM PST by Eric Pode of Croydon
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I would disagree too Targeting civilians in their homes is murder.

If directly intentionally killing innocent human beings isn't murder, how the blankety-blank would you define murder?

I'm looking for a definition.

Serious question.

16 posted on 02/13/2017 5:09:29 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (He who sat on the White Horse is called Faithful and True: in righteousness He judges and wages war.)
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"In this world, several conflicts are being carried out in a warlike manner and human rights are being trampled on," said Dresden Mayor Dirk Hilbert.

"This suffering affects us directly in a globalized world," he added, placing a white rose on a memorial of the controversial attack.

If Herr Hilbert has any roses left, he can take them to Auschwitz or Belsen, Oradour-sur-Glane or Lidice, Baugnetz or Wormhoudt… lots of human rights were getting trampled on in a warlike manner back then, with the most direct kind of globalized suffering.

17 posted on 02/13/2017 5:09:54 PM PST by niteowl77 (First it was George Bush's fault, then it was the Russians' fault, now it's Donald Trump's fault.)
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To: nickcarraway; jmacusa; DIRTYSECRET; 2ndDivisionVet; Psycho_Runner

In his diary, Joseph Goebbels said there were 250,000 deaths, but I don’t know whether that estimate was a private figure or one conjured up for public consumption. At the time though the population would have been unusually large, because of people fleeing the Russian advance. The 25,000 figure may not take that fact into account.

An estimate was the only possibility for a firebombing raid, because even those in basements were burned into dust, or an unrecognizable slush if water had put out the fire there. The leadership who advocated total war hid out in bunkers neither heat nor explosives could penetrate.

The British bomber streams at night were lucky to hit a city. The American bombers during the day could do better with the Norden sight. It would have probably made more sense for Dresden to have been a daylight target, because north and west of the central area were the industrial locations.


18 posted on 02/13/2017 5:11:18 PM PST by Retain Mike
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“Germany wanted Total War and the Allies obliged.”

No one on either side asked the civilians’ opinion.


19 posted on 02/13/2017 5:11:18 PM PST by Pelham (liberate Occupied California)
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To: nickcarraway

With a special appearance by Montana Wildhack...!!


20 posted on 02/13/2017 5:11:57 PM PST by CTyank
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