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Oroville Dam: Feds and state officials ignored warnings 12 years ago
The Mercury News ^ | February 12, 2017 | Paul Rogers

Posted on 02/13/2017 5:48:06 AM PST by Sons of Union Vets

More than a decade ago, federal and state officials and some of California’s largest water agencies rejected concerns that the massive earthen spillway at Oroville Dam — at risk of collapse Sunday night and prompting the evacuation of 185,000 people — could erode during heavy winter rains and cause a catastrophe.

Three environmental groups — the Friends of the River, the Sierra Club and the South Yuba Citizens League — filed a motion with the federal government on Oct. 17, 2005, as part of Oroville Dam’s relicensing process, urging federal officials to require that the dam’s emergency spillway be armored with concrete, rather than remain as an earthen hillside.

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TOPICS: Miscellaneous; Society; Weather
KEYWORDS: california; infrastructure; oroville; orovilledam
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To: allendale; Sons of Union Vets

What was it Rahm said, ‘Never let a crisis go to waste’.


21 posted on 02/13/2017 6:00:19 AM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie
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To: Sons of Union Vets

If it weren’t so serious, this would be kind of funny. The environmental groups wanted to pour concrete and the Bush and Schwarzenegger administration’s wanted to keep it natural.


22 posted on 02/13/2017 6:00:20 AM PST by oincobx
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To: mewzilla
From 2013...

Butte tribe wants say in Oroville Dam relicensing

23 posted on 02/13/2017 6:02:46 AM PST by mewzilla (I'll vote for the first guy who promises to mail in his SOTU addresses.)
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To: Sons of Union Vets

Moonbeam’s fault!


24 posted on 02/13/2017 6:03:29 AM PST by Lopeover (The 2016 Election is about allegiance to the United States!)
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To: mewzilla
From 2013, interesting for a number of reasons...

California Water Commission In Oroville; Hears An Update On State Water Project Organizational Issues, The Thermalito Fire, And Oroville FERC Relicensing

25 posted on 02/13/2017 6:06:58 AM PST by mewzilla (I'll vote for the first guy who promises to mail in his SOTU addresses.)
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To: Sons of Union Vets

But they have plenty of money to spend on high speed trains.


26 posted on 02/13/2017 6:07:16 AM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: mewzilla; maggief

Ping :-)


27 posted on 02/13/2017 6:07:42 AM PST by mewzilla (I'll vote for the first guy who promises to mail in his SOTU addresses.)
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To: bray

“The Global Warming politicians thought there would not be snow in the mountains after 2015 and planned accordingly.”

Fantastic insight.

Brings AGW policy from abstract optimism to deadly consequences for being wrong.


28 posted on 02/13/2017 6:08:25 AM PST by ctdonath2 (Understand the Left: "The issue is never the issue. The issue is always the Revolution.")
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To: mewzilla

Well, at least the lawyers are making some money. Who cares about public safety.


29 posted on 02/13/2017 6:12:00 AM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: mewzilla

WOW!
After reading through the articles you posted I have a much better understanding of what actually is going on there. Thanks for the links mewzilla.
This reads just like a chapter from ‘Atlas Shrugged’ excepting the fact that the FERC chairman just changed under the Trump administration.
Delaying relicensing (and needed repairs) because Global Climate Change wasn’t taken nto considereation, SHEESH!!!


30 posted on 02/13/2017 6:12:04 AM PST by whodathunkit (PC is the AR of the left)
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To: whodathunkit; mewzilla

Many thanks for the info!

Govt messups endangering hundreds of thousands...


31 posted on 02/13/2017 6:15:22 AM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000)
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To: Sons of Union Vets

This goes back a lot longer than 12 years. I was stationed at Beale AFB in the late 80’s and there were people back then raising concerns about Oroville.


32 posted on 02/13/2017 6:15:26 AM PST by commish (Freedom tastes Sweetest to those who have fought to preserve it!)
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To: Sons of Union Vets

If “Governor Moonbeam” had spent more tax dollars on CONSULTANTS like Eric Holder, Chocolate City Nagin,maybe those
really smart guys could have avoided these kind of problems,,,,,? /sarc


33 posted on 02/13/2017 6:19:22 AM PST by litehaus (A memory toooo long.............)
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To: AppyPappy

Sons of Union Vets wrote: “Make the town below the dam a “Sanctuary City”

Great idea. Besides, most of their backs are still wet from crossing the Rio


34 posted on 02/13/2017 6:21:06 AM PST by UglyinLA (Excellence is not a singular act, but a habit. Aristotle 345BC, by way of Will Durant, 1926.)
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To: Sons of Union Vets

I heard California is going to file a lawsuit against Mother Nature for dumping all that rain on them this winter which caused the current crisis at the Oroville Dam. After all she is white according to all the depictions of her, and we know how Democrats love white people these days.


35 posted on 02/13/2017 6:21:27 AM PST by dowcaet (uart)
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To: Sons of Union Vets

Gov. of CA in 2005 - Arnie.

Scapegoating has started - FERC, DWR and water companies.

But you can be sure they’ll get their digs in at Arnie if they think they can blame it on a Republican.


36 posted on 02/13/2017 6:22:11 AM PST by randita (PLEASE STOP ALL THE WORTHLESS VANITIES!)
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To: Sons of Union Vets

Sierra Club !?!

Even A Blind Hog...


37 posted on 02/13/2017 6:23:55 AM PST by Big Red Badger (UNSCANABLE in an IDIOCRACY!)
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To: UglyinLA

If anyone reads it and thinks it was mean, I was actually going for “ironic”.

The Left will not take notice unless a favored group is in danger.


38 posted on 02/13/2017 6:27:25 AM PST by AppyPappy
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To: AppyPappy
"Make the town below the dam a “Sanctuary City”

Well . . . Sacramento (State capitol) is approximately 70 miles downrange.

Not likely to be affected

Oroville and Yuba City looks like any mid-western town

39 posted on 02/13/2017 6:30:34 AM PST by saywhatagain
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To: stylin19a

No, it’s the State of Cakifornia’s fault. They built, own and operate the dam. A simple math model would show that with inflows exceeding outflows the res would soon be filled to the brim. The controlled spillway was designed for 250k cfs. Only yesterday did they bump the outflow from 60k to 100k. They have had a month at least to be working on maintaining reserve capacity in the reservoir. Check out the daily outflow rate over the last two months. Yesterday they finally hit the panic button. Poor management of their resource.


40 posted on 02/13/2017 6:30:42 AM PST by Paladin2 (No spellcheck. It's too much work to undo the auto wrong word substitution on mobile devices.)
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