Posted on 02/10/2017 8:05:22 PM PST by Trump20162020
HOUSTON — It’s looking as if 2017 could become the year when the anti-vaccination movement gains ascendancy in the United States and we begin to see a reversal of several decades in steady public health gains. The first blow will be measles outbreaks in America.
Measles is one of the most contagious and most lethal of all human diseases. A single person infected with the virus can infect more than a dozen unvaccinated people, typically infants too young to have received their first measles shot. Such high levels of transmissibility mean that when the percentage of children in a community who have received the measles vaccine falls below 90 percent to 95 percent, we can start to see major outbreaks, as in the 1950s when four million Americans a year were infected and 450 died. Worldwide, measles still kills around 100,000 children each year.
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His wife is trained as a medically-alert midwife, not able to exercise her trade in Illinois for lack of nursing degree, but guiding fathers ansd mothers through the legally allowed decisions of the birthing parents to deliver at home (as she did). The oldest will finish his PhD this summer, having been offered by three universities for all-expense-paid post-graduate studies in view of his intellectual superiority and accomplisments for the B. S. Eng. degree. And I could goon about his junior brothers and sisters.
All solid, saved fundamental independent Baptist Christians, BTW. Daily morning worship for all.
Fairy tale? No. A matter of intelligent choice.
Oh, and also believers in Biblical and scientific creation doctrine.
No one was vaccinated until adults when foreign travel and/or military service required it. The next younger brother will also receive his OCS lieutenancy this summer, on Illinois' top tier in the collegiate Ranger training competitive team. His older sissters have been serving in Central America missionary work for about two years. More stories are in the making, with no incidences of life-changing infections.
Maybe this is all just a Providential evasion of popularized statistics? Eh?
but then I am old enough to have seen measles and polio. And in Africa I saw children die of measles, tetanus and whooping cough.
As for home births, 90 per cent of women do fine. It is the ten percent that give you trouble. Eclampsia, retained placenta, twins, malposition, nuchal cord, and post partum hemorrhage. In the UK, they had “flying squad” ambulances with blood for women who hemorrhaged in home births. And sometimes you get mom bleeding out and a kid not breathing at the same time.
My daughter-in-law un-degreed midwife published a guide for the home-birthing process entitled "Childbirth: An Athletic Event" designed to develop the committed couple to physical, mental, and spiritual development and unity for the event.
Of course, it does make provision for providing professional medical backup in case the birthing goes awry. The intent is for the husband to actually perform the delivery at home, with the midwife-trained guide at his elbow guiding his pre-rehearsed actions.
That is how her ten children were born--at home. Without an obstetrician.
How do you think Jesus was born? In a germ-free operating room? With early vaccinations lined up for Him?
A large majority of deaths in the American Civil War were from infectious diseases caused by large numbers of men living in close proximity in camps. One of the infectious diseases that Civil War troops died of was the measles. There is even a reference to it in “Gone With the Wind” where Scarlett’s husband (IIRC) had gone off to fight the war and got a letter that he had died of the measles.
With the introduction of large numbers of immigrants, both legal and increasingly illegal from areas of the world where these diseases are endemic we risk again having epidemics in this country. We are already seeing outbreaks of TB in school children at rates we haven't seen in 50 years..source unscreened immigrants from the disease ridden areas of Africa and Latin America. Consider that smallpox has been almost, but not necessarily totally iradicated in the world....so much so that smallpox vaccination has pretty much ceased in the US. Just one infected individual from areas where smallpox might still lurk, like Islamic Africa, could trigger an epidemic in this country rivaling the plagues in 17 th century Europe.
Regarding time in history, I am old enough to have experienced an age where poliomyelitis was not preventable but smallpox was (by inoculation, I have the scar that modern American children do not). I had chickenpox, mumps, both kinds of measles, and bouts with pneumonia and allergies. Also six years ago a meningiotomy that removed a benign mass about 4" x 2½" x 1¼" and so grateful for the facilities and neurosurgery advancement that made it possible.
It is clear that where a communicable disease has been effectively eradicated, vaccination against it is no longer required; and perhaps for the effect that even a weak form of the disease still has upon the system, not desired. Nu?
Furthermore, I am old enough that my grandmother, born the ninth of ten children, a dairy farmer's wife married in the very early years of the 20th century, was one of the midwives who served the other farm families when obstetrics was not even imagined, and the germ theory of disease had only begun to be broadcast. Babies died, but many lived. Many babies still die today by pre-birth execution--perhaps nearly as many as before broad vaccinations and legal abortions were instituted. Eh?
And today, probably a wide sense and practice of sanitation through indoor plumbing, hot water, pasteurization, antibacterial soap, health classes in school, military training, and a wide spectrum of OTC preparations, the population can do a lot of its own doctoring and suppression of disease.
For me, I will not allow the popular trend toward accepting flu vaccination to overcome the common sense of realizing that the vaccine has been against the last year's influenza, not this year's; and that even though my maternal grandmother died of the deadly global "Spanish" influenza epidemic of 1918-1920. I will not allow that ineffective H1N1 trash to be put into my system. PneumovaxTM, yes, certainly; but "flu shots" every year, no!. I've gotten to be eighty, and I hope to continue to build up antibodies for yet a bit longer, while my mind still lasts.
But for infants: Autism, anyone?
There is a lot of junk DNA in vaccines... bits and scraps of stuff that wasn’t intended.
The things you learn on FR! I have a horrible aluminum allergy. I have eliminated all hygiene and cooking products with aluminum. I had never heard of aluminum in vaccinations.
I am not an anti-vaxxer, but I’m 90% sure my last Anthrax series kick-started an autoimmune disease for me. GIs have been used as vaccine guinea pig forever, but any suggestion of correlation is met with the big guns. Party line: No service member has ever had a negative effect from any vaccine; the statistically high rates of autoimmune diseases are just coincidental.
Well, it IS called FREErepublic, isn’t it?
I was in a state hospital for crippled children in 54 and 55 and got to see the rehab that kids with polio went through. It was the rough equivalent of being broken on the rack. Glad you had a childhood without those visuals.
Oh, my anecdote has as much relevance as yours in the discussion of vaccine safety. I have no opinion because I'm not an epidemiologist.
I don’t oppose vaccines, but I am opposed to forced vaccinations. Forced vaccinations require government intervention to force individual to get their vaccines.
There is no constitutional basis for forced vaccinations, and it’s an infringement on 9th amendment rights. An ends justiffies the means argument cannot be taken seriously in a non-emergent situation. I think that most people understand that the government is not to be trusted when it comes to injecting substances into an individual and I believe that governments are capable of very nefarious ends in many cases. Big pharma often takes advantage of these situations by bribing (campaign donations) to get their product to the public.
If having health care is good foe everyone, do you think we should force everyone to buy it too?
Ha ha. Measles, really? The surgeons and doctors didn’t use sterile technique and they didn’t have penicillin (1920) in the Civil War. The CW soldiers died from infected bacterial wounds resulting in sepsis and pneumonia for the most part.
As you should know, sterile technique and antibiotics have been the chief reasons for dramatically improved survival rates from combat injuries during the 20th century (along with better surgical techniques fluid resuscitation, blood transfusions)
How very reasonable and logical...
Yeah
I blame open-borders.
And the HPV vaccine was being pushed as a “women’s issue” to silence men/take them out of it yet as we’ve seen, men too (famous ones at that) are contracting the very same cancer.
Even those with Ebola in America refused to stay in their quarantine. And libs applauded.
There are vaccines for Tuberculosis (MDR-TB), Chagas Disease, Leprosy, and Dengue Fever?
I was speaking specifically to measles. Since that was the subject of the original article. Other diseases especially TB are a problem. It was true years ago with Haitian immigrants.
I’m not for forced vaccination.
The first case of forced vaccination that I’m aware of was an order by General George Washington during the Revolution. Disease was killing more Continentals than the Redcoats were and smallpox was often the culprit. So he ordered his troops to get vaccinated. But those were soldiers, not citizens at large.
As for the current rejection of vaccination, a lot of it sounds more like conspiracy theory than science to me. It seems to be a favorite target of the holistic medicine crowd.
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