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Who Will Pay for San Francisco's $750 Million Tilting Tower?
Bloomberg link only ^ | 1 feb 2017 | Kartikay Mehrotra

Posted on 02/01/2017 7:37:40 AM PST by DUMBGRUNT

Bloomberg link only.


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To: thoughtomator
"Is that from Idiocracy?"

Similar cityscape from "Elysium":


61 posted on 02/01/2017 10:51:37 AM PST by PLMerite
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To: treetopsandroofs

Idiocracy


62 posted on 02/01/2017 11:08:02 AM PST by mowowie (Press 2 for Deportation)
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To: hold_muh_bier

Typically: Span/600 deflection can be allowed.


63 posted on 02/01/2017 11:08:07 AM PST by DUMBGRUNT (Go Trump!)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

I look at those apartments then look at the surroundings around where i am typing and just cringe.
ugh....


64 posted on 02/01/2017 11:13:54 AM PST by mowowie (Press 2 for Deportation)
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To: NTHockey
Architect building on sand?

Apparently, the builders were allowed to sink the building's pilings only halfway to bedrock.

I don't know what morons in building and safety signed off on the code that permitted such, but they need to pay a price for that gross, criminal negligence.

65 posted on 02/01/2017 11:20:08 AM PST by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: jim_trent

Recall the John Hancock Building, Chicago!

A friend was involved on this project.
I heard all about!
While setting a beam the engineer noticed a change in elevation!!

They had to jack the existing pours OUT, and go deeper!!
Prior to this event , it was a different name on the building, he ran out of funds!!

Khan’s design called for 57 caissons—8-foot-thick concrete columns—to be plunged into the bedrock to support the building’s 46,000-ton steel frame. One of those caissons had to be extended up to 197 feet below the surface, then a world record. But soon after the caissons were put in place, Khan received bad news from his field man at the site: One of the caissons had shifted seven-eighths of an inch: The base of the $100,000,000 building was sinking. Khan immediately called a meeting at the building site, looked at the concrete pillars, and cleared his head.

https://mentalfloss.atavist.com/the-man-who-saved-the-skyscraper


66 posted on 02/01/2017 11:25:38 AM PST by DUMBGRUNT (Go Trump!)
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To: hold_muh_bier

Also my guess is,the building would remain intact.
The underground services would be a problem.


67 posted on 02/01/2017 11:58:16 AM PST by DUMBGRUNT (Go Trump!)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

My solution:

Take over an existing street at the side that is leaning. Install a brace stuck in the ground a block down that street, and install a hydraulic arm that reaches the side of the building about half way up. Extend the hydraulic arm until the building is straight upright. Decorate the brace with murals, and voila, an architectural icon is born.


68 posted on 02/01/2017 12:05:24 PM PST by roadcat
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To: jim_trent

That’s crazy! Wouldn’t putting the piles into bedrock reduced the number of friction piles - and the cost?

I worked on the demolition of an 8-year old 16 story condo. The tension wires in the concrete had not been coated with epoxy when they were trimmed off. So the wires were rusting. They spent a few million trying to fix the problem, and when that didn’t work they had to tear the whole thing down.

All because some worker didn’t put a dab of epoxy on the ends. Although I mentioned that to one of the managers of the demolition and he said something like “Yeah - except his boss should have been checking, the company inspector should have caught it, and the city inspector should have caught it too. So you had at least four people not doing their jobs.”

The funny part was the building was owned and built by the Carpenter’s Union and was to be a source of income for their pension plan!


69 posted on 02/01/2017 12:18:34 PM PST by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts FDR's New Deal = obama)
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I just read the article. After seeing the photos of the cracks and deteriorating walls in the basement, I wouldn’t stay there another night. Besides worrying about the building falling down, another article says stresses on the wiring system have been found, so there’s a long-term potential fire hazard too.


70 posted on 02/01/2017 12:46:00 PM PST by Kipp
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To: McGavin999

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>> “ I do feel sorry for people who bought there” <<

I dont!
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71 posted on 02/01/2017 12:46:57 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

I’m from Central Illinois. Don’t you have to have hills to be a hillbilly? Illinois is flatter than a pancake.


72 posted on 02/01/2017 1:00:40 PM PST by abishai
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To: abishai

As a bicycle rider, I can tell you that there few hills in Du Page County.
IIRC the highest point is a former garage dump, now a Forest Preserve. And it is not that tall!


73 posted on 02/01/2017 1:39:09 PM PST by DUMBGRUNT (Go Trump!)
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To: 109ACS
They should have had Trump build it.

So glad that he didn't, and that his sons didn't enter into a branding agreement with it. Bullet dodged. He wouldn't have built it so badly, however.

74 posted on 02/01/2017 2:07:38 PM PST by Albion Wilde ("January 20, 2017, will be remembered as the day the people became the rulers of this nation again.")
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To: NTHockey
Proof once again that there are too many stupid people in this country. Architect building on sand?

But... but... all cultures are equal! Knowledge is invalid because dead white males! There is no such thing as absolutes! The scientific method is unaffected by government grants! STEM needs more diversity! etc etc etc

75 posted on 02/01/2017 2:10:39 PM PST by Albion Wilde ("January 20, 2017, will be remembered as the day the people became the rulers of this nation again.")
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To: Liz
Money-saving is the cause......the S/F bldg’s problems occurred b/c the builder did not go down enough feet as they laid the foundation.

And physics. There's a reason why the pyramids, built on sand, are shaped the way they are and still standing. Some building lots are just not suitable for tall towers.

76 posted on 02/01/2017 2:15:50 PM PST by Albion Wilde ("January 20, 2017, will be remembered as the day the people became the rulers of this nation again.")
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To: doc maverick
Let the illegals pay for it.

Yes, the massive costs will be more than offset by what the illegals add to the American economy! /s

77 posted on 02/01/2017 2:17:16 PM PST by Albion Wilde ("January 20, 2017, will be remembered as the day the people became the rulers of this nation again.")
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To: hold_muh_bier
Uhm... I'm not an engineer, but at what point does this tilt make rigid pipes uncouple and/or electrical wiring stretch beyond its length and separate from outlets, etc.?

We had ground sinkage in a row of very ordinary suburban townhouses and one house had their gas line rupture. Could have blown up the whole unit block if he had been away on business and hadn't smelled it.

78 posted on 02/01/2017 2:20:57 PM PST by Albion Wilde ("January 20, 2017, will be remembered as the day the people became the rulers of this nation again.")
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To: Albion Wilde

In the last analysis.....human error. Right?


79 posted on 02/01/2017 2:27:10 PM PST by Liz (</I>)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Perhaps they could get all their special illegal immigrants to prop it up. Or maybe they could send their illegals back to wherever they came from and use the money for propping them up to fix their tower.


80 posted on 02/01/2017 2:42:04 PM PST by dforest
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