They are having a hearing in Wisconsin at 4:30 today not sure if it still going on now about the full hand recount and Clintons Lawyers joined it:
http://www.channel3000.com/news/politics/judge-lets-clinton-join-recount-lawsuit/42654554
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Maybe it’s time we wake up a bit.
1) Trump won by narrow margins in 3 states.
2) Podesta came out and said it’s not over.
3) Hillary and Obama soon after came out and said it is over
4) We were all happy and figured the rest of the effort to get Trump into office was just a formality
5) We stop worrying about watching the ballots and the machines.
6) The Dems go dark, nothing from Hillary, Podesta, Obama questioning the election.
7) Stein files for recount, we all (me included) say it’s just a joke, a fund-raising scheme...and she raises lots of money.
8) Stein gives us soothing words - that she knows that Hillary lost, instead she just wants a complete tabulation, so as to legitimatize the results.
9) Hillary’s people join the recount effort.
10) No one on our side bothers asking why the Dems would want to ‘legitimatize’ Trump’s victory.
11) The big money requests from the state of Wisconsin comes in, we laugh...we told you so, just a fund-raising scheme.
12) Stein shuts us up by paying up.
13) So our main theory is blown out of the water - Stein/Hillary are serious about the recount.
14) Two more theories left:
A: They want to legitimize Trump’s victory.
B: They think they can overturn the results of the election.
Does anyone think that “A” is the answer?
If not, is anyone concerned that “B” may just happen? Are Trump’s lawyers watching (if so, they’re awfully quiet...totally opposite of Bush’s lawyers in 2000)? Are RNC lawyers watching? Do we know the chain of custody of all of the ballots/machines?
Finally, if the answers to the above are no, then are we prepared for Hillary to take office?
I hope the Dems realize how bloody a civil war would be.
Largest deficit ever overcome in a recount is 700, Hillary needs 140,000 please stop with all this nonsense
Of course they think they might be able to do that, but it’s basically an impossibility with Trump’s margin of victory, so why should we care if they want to waste their time and money?
If they do manage to fraud their way into achieving it, then they would just provoke a civil war which they would lose, so it’s a win-win situation I say.
Pennsylvania and Wisconson combined have 30 votes.
Trump won 306 to 232.
Swap the votes and he still wins 276 to 262.
http://state.1keydata.com/state-electoral-votes.php
Maybe some behind-the-scenes dealmaking is going on between Trump and Obama-Cinton-Soros: they will kill the recount effort if Trump will agree to this ‘n that.
You are not alone. I am very concerned the Democrats are going to succeed in flipping PA, WI and MI. If they do, the evil witch will be our President.
I have stated several times, Democrats do not lose recounts. they always win them because they always find “missing” votes.
For those that say the Democrats lost the Florida recount in 2000, I say not so fast. They were on track to win it until the SCOTUS put a stop to it. Bush won FL by about 1300 votes. Then the Democrats got it down to 700. Then down to 500. Then down to 300.
Mark my words. In some crack house in Milwaukee, Philadelphia and Detroit are stacks and stacks of Hillary votes waiting to be “found”....an they will be.
I am disturbed that the Trump camp is ignoring this. The Presidency is about to be snatched from Donald Trump and they are oblivious.
I too am getting suspicious. They believed the polls and didn’t think they’d need to manufacture that many votes.
They undercheated.
Now they put up their puppet Stein to challenge the three states that Clinton narrowly lost, the overturning of which would give her the presidency.
They can manufacture the votes needed and dare anyone to prove otherwise.
All that prevents this: perhaps three courts in three states. How hard is that for a Clinton?
There is no other reason for these three states to hold recounts. No one else stands to gain but Hillary Clinton and her minions.
Not saying it’s inevitable but if they find what they need, I won’t be surprised.
I fully expect them to try and steal the election and thus the Presidency. If the Trump campaign and the RNC (maybe the Republicans are in on it) can’t be bothered to do anything about it what do you expect us to do about it? If it comes to it and the people need to take up arms I’m sure there are many on FR who will answer the call. We aren’t there yet so why worry over what we really can’t change?
Even the Clinton campaign admitted that Trump’s lead is greater than any recount has ever overturned. In PA, Trump leads by 70K votes.
You guys really need to stop hyperventilating over this BS. Stein is just doing her best to 1) avoid blame for costing Hillary states like Wisconsin, 2) become the new face of liberal America, standing up against evil Trump, 3) and working to deligitimizing Trump.
I should add that Hillary’s silence on this issue speaks volumes. She could get on T.V tonight and reiterate her concession speech, make it absolutely clear that she will not be the President of the United States. She could shut this down but as usual, she’s not ready to lead.
Remember how angry she was when Hillary joined the effort. I think that Hillary joined in order to keep Stein from folding like a deck of cards and running with the the lion's share of the money.
Yeah. They’re evil. But they’re also Dims. And Dims are—by definition—dim!!!!
I think that they they’re trying to delay the recognition of the electoral votes from these states beyond when the Electoral College meets. But they’ve already lost PA. So they are totally lost!!!!!
They will, however, try to turn the Electoral College for Hillary. We’ll see how that works! Phooey!
I don’t think your post is nonsense and I also feel it is very appropriate that you post your comments in the forum.
11-18-2016
MI = 11,612; WI 27,257; PA 68,236
11-29-2016
MI = 10,704; WI 22,177; PA 64,403
Numbers are from NYT
I’ve been keeping up with Gov. Walker’s twitter, he said today, this is just a money-raising scheme by Stein.
https://twitter.com/ScottWalker
One good thing is Mich and Wisc have Republican Governors, maybe they can keep an eye on things.
The losers are putting a lot of money on this horse, and it’s no Secretariat or American Pharoah.
The possibility of a fund raising effort for Stein is most likely, however she is just a pawn for the donor (s) , no doubt the deal is she gets to skim off a percentage for her role. The real question is why is Soros or other donor(s) are willing to loose millions of dollars on such poor odds of ever flipping one state, let alone three? Seems the prevailing theory is to de legitimize Trumps victory by removing these electoral votes after causing the count to be delayed so that the results cannot be certified in time.. however the supporters of HRC already think the popular vote has done that (sic), so therefore it is baffling why dump millions of dollars to disenfranchise these states, and not even have any chance of flipping, while at the same time all the HRC supporters already think his victory is not legitimate due to popular vote ( sic).
Could it be for example, they may have planted a false flag, fraudulent votes in favor of Trump that can only be brought to attention during a hand count..? For example all they need is a few hundred planted votes, then they sow the seed that this a random sample ( which it really wont be) is just the tip of the ice burg, and therefore call into question every state as now they have proof of tampering by the Russians or Martians, or some boogy man. So if they are able to show fake convincing evidence , they will whip a frenzy in pub;ic opinion..
Bottom line, nobody plunks down millions of drillers without a plan, and that plan may be to uncover fraud they themselves planted and they know now exactly where to look?
The possibility of a fund raising effort for Stein is most likely, however she is just a pawn for the donor (s) , no doubt the deal is she gets to skim off a percentage for her role. The real question is why is Soros or other donor(s) are willing to loose millions of dollars on such poor odds of ever flipping one state, let alone three? Seems the prevailing theory is to de legitimize Trumps victory by removing these electoral votes after causing the count to be delayed so that the results cannot be certified in time.. however the supporters of HRC already think the popular vote has done that (sic), so therefore it is baffling why dump millions of dollars to disenfranchise these states that don't have any chance of flipping, while at the same time all the HRC supporters already think his victory is not legitimate due to popular vote ( sic).
Could it be for example, they may have planted a false flag, fraudulent votes in favor of Trump that can only be brought to attention during a hand count..? For example all they need is a few hundred planted votes, then they sow the seed that this a random sample ( which it really wont be) is just the tip of the iceburg, and therefore call into question every state as now they have proof of tampering by the Russians or Martians, or some boogy man. So if they are able to show fake convincing evidence , they will whip a frenzy in pub;ic opinion..
Bottom line, nobody plunks down millions of drillers without a plan, and that plan may be to uncover fraud they themselves planted and they know now exactly where to look?