Posted on 11/29/2016 4:33:59 PM PST by BobL
Maybe it's time we wake up a bit. 1) Trump won by narrow margins in 3 states. 2) Podesta came out and said it's not over 3) Hillary and Obama soon after came out and said it is over 4) We were all happy and figured the rest of the effort to get Trump into office was just a formality 5) We stop worrying about watching the ballots and the machines 6) The Dems go dark, nothing from Hillary, Podesta, Obama questioning the election 7) Stein files for recount, we all (me included) say it's just a joke, a fund-raising scheme...and she raises lots of money. 8) Stein gives us soothing words - that she knows that Hillary lost, instead she just wants a complete tabulation, so as to legitimatize the results. 9) Hillary's people join the recount effort 10) No one on our side bothers asking why the Dems would want to 'legitimatize' Trump's victory 11) The big money requests from the state of Wisconsin comes in, we laugh...we told you so, just a fund-raising scheme 12) Stein shuts us up by paying up 13) So our main theory is blown out of the water - Stein/Hillary are serious about the recount. 14) Two more theories left: A: They want to legitimize Trump's victory B: They think they can overturn the results of the election
Does anyone think that "A" is the answer?
If not, is anyone concerned that "B" may just happen? Are Trump's lawyers watching (if so, they're awfully quiet...totally opposite of Bush's lawyers in 2000)? Are RNC lawyers watching? Do we know the chain of custody of all of the ballots/machines?
Finally, if the answers to the above are no, then are we prepared for Hillary to take office?
“Who cares if they requested it...”
My point is that there WAS NOT a recount in Ohio, the Dems didn’t contest it - all they did was talk. Totally different this time.
Across the three states Hillary only needs to get one half of your total + 1 or approximately 70,001 votes.
Never underestimate the ability of democrats to rig the vote, even a recount. They play for keeps.
Its not going to happen.
They would have to find votes that no one knows about.
Completely implausible.
We’re not Mexico - they can stuff ballot boxes and hold fraudulent elections.
Ours are clean and in the way the recounts show our democracy is messy, infuriating and ultimately it vindicates our choice.
We’re blessed to have it and things work out as they always do, for the best.
11-18-2016
MI = 11,612; WI 27,257; PA 68,236
11-29-2016
MI = 10,704; WI 22,177; PA 64,403
Numbers are from NYT
12th Amendment:
“the greatest Number of votes for President, shall be the President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed.”
If the Dems tie up all three states (MI-16, WI-10, and PA-20), so they can’t appoint their electors, they will argue that there are 538 Electoral Votes and Trump doesn’t have 270.
The problem in the legislatures is how many of the Republican members are GOPe?
DT team best get involved while it’s 100,000 votes it’s also three sep battles. Rats are finding preparing and aligning people. Caught sone of WI hearing, it was 3 way discussion between judge rats and ‘expert’. Out side more spectators. They are in this to win it and fully intend with judges to flip three states. Ain’t going thru this to ‘’weaken” Trump they cheat like hell
A few hundred votes around the margins won’t change the overall result.
Relax.
Yeah that’s what I said!
I think the ones in the legislature now lean more trap party the GOPe party.
I like the way you think.
As long as we are resolute in our beliefs and opposition, unlike how conservatives have been in the last 16 years, we have nothing to lose. Civil war will resolve it for everyone, including us and especially the liberals. The only way we lose is if we surrender. (like RINOs, weak kneed compassionate conservative Bush’s, McCain Mutiny, Romney the RINO, etc...)
We have to eventually fight these bastards one way or another, and they really are cowards, lets get it on and get it over with!
The end point?
Yes, indeed, there is one.
What hasn’t happened is üncontrolled” mob action necessitating a call for Martial Law by Obama. The city riots didn’t do it and nothing else has to this date. However, if it appears the States are caving and giving a large percentage of illicit votes to Hil-liar-y then I think there will be massive anger and even without riots, Obama will call “martial law” because he thinks he is nervous about the situation and he’s tired of sitting on his hands. For the Good of the Nation he needs to maintain his position as POTUS until the situation stabilizes. And that makes him dictator, a role he has been assuming with the egregious efforts of the Congress.
I am waiting.
Martial law meets second amendment.
I think that second amendment would win, but I think it would be quite ugly.
BobI, I understand you are worried. I’m trying not to worry. When evil people are busily at work, it’s unsettling, very unsettling. Statistically, historically, there is no way the vote will be reversed in all 3 states. Still, evil is at hand. Pray without ceasing, just like we all did on Election Day.
Thank you. I did note that one of my detractors has been on this forum for under a month...makes me wonder.
They probably expected TRUMP to react. He hasn’t.
And the NYT doesn’t lie?:)
“But they’ve already lost PA. So they are totally lost!!!!!”
I’ll accept that after the recount is done there, and the courts are out of it.
“I’m seeing a trend I don’t like. Trump’s lead in the three states is decreasing.”
The changes you’re looking at were made during pre-certification when corrections were made and submitted for final certification.
That is what I have read also, recounts have to get done before electoral vote.
This is entirely plausible
These bastards are up to something
They will stop at nothing to put her in the white House.
At all costs
“Across the three states Hillary only needs to get one half of your total + 1 or approximately 70,001 votes.
Never underestimate the ability of democrats to rig the vote, even a recount. They play for keeps.”
Like I said the most they have ever found is 700. To only need half of the total you would need to subtract a Trump vote for every Hillary gain. That’s now it work
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