A first hand account of real history.
Our very own Jmouse007 had lived through a stolen election in the Ukraine.
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Thanks Jmousse007 and Arthur.
Posted on 11/05/2016 2:56:18 PM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March
Jmouse007 is not just any FRiend on this forum but someone who actually lived through a stolen election.
He thought he was 'dressing me down', but actually I roused him to share this experience with the world. I take no offense -- just glad to get a first hand account of stark history.
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Regarding the Government controlled media in the Ukraine at the time; as someone who was there and had been working in country for years, just like the American MSM, the Ukrainian TV, radio and print media were all totally in the tank for the corrupt Ukrainian government and its ploy to steal the election.
For decades it had been and was a propaganda arm of the utterly corrupt government; in this case the President Kutchma regime that was actively involved with Putin/Russia in rigging and stealing the election for Victor Yanokovich = a TWICE CONVICTED FELON AND MEMBER/HEAD OF THE RUSSIAN MAFIA IN UKRAINE.
As soon as the election was over the MSM quickly proclaimed that Yanokvich won in a landslide (due to vote rigging and ballot box stuffing) and went right along with proclaiming the lie that Yushenko lost the election and that Yanokovich has "won".
ALL of the TV, radio and print media kept repeating "the big lie" for days and days after the fraudulent election results had been posted. However, the populace didn't believe or fall for any of it. Because like Trump vs Clinton, Yuschenko ran on a platform to end corruption and was wildly popular with his rallies drawing huge crowds of enthusiastic voters while Yanokvich was pushed by the government the MSM establishment and the Russian mafia. His lack luster campaign events drew few people. He had little support because the populace knew who and what he was.
The news shows on ALL of the networks invited a multitude of professional, "talking heads" (who were unanimously supporting the corrupt regime) all day long to perpetuate the fraud, confirm the cooked "election results", prop up Yanokovich and vilify the petulant protesters. The MSM also went out of their way to habitually denigrate the protesters and to drastically downplay the significance of the Orange Revolution, the size of the demonstrations and how many people were actually involved.
In spite of all the propaganda, "spin" and outright lies perpetuated by the media, working in consort with the corrupt Ukrainian government/regime to attempt to dampen public opinion, public support for the movement and end the Orange Revolution, NOTHING WORKED! EVERYTHING THEY TRIED BACKFIRED: THE PROTESTS EXPANDED, THE CROWDS GREW EXPONENTIALLY AND CONTINUED DAY AND NIGHT FOR WEEKS UNTIL THE Orange Revolution's DEMANDS WERE MET.
The MSM and the government FAILED COMPLETELY BECAUSE BOTH INSTITUTIONS HAD LOST ALL CREDIBILITY = The Ukrainian public at large no longer trusted anything coming out of their collective mouths.
1) The citizens of Ukraine knew their corrupt government, in conjunction with its "Main Stream Media" had stolen the election via mass voter fraud and that they were boldly perpetuating the lie that Yanokvich had won.
2) The Ukrainians didn't believe anything they were being told about the election results or the Orange Revolution. They no longer trusted the MSM, their corrupt government because both had lost all credibility.
3) The citizens of Ukraine believed the evidence of their own eyes: The Orange Revolution; its protesters, its demands and the overwhelming support of populace was real. They were genuine, massive, growing, peaceful AND, MOST IMPORTANTLY THE PROTESTERS WERE COMMITTED TO CONTINUING THEIR PROTESTS UNTIL THEIR DEMANDS WERE MET. It was an unstoppable, ever-expanding "movement".
Eventually, the MSM HAD TO TELL THE TRUTH ABOUT WHAT WAS GOING ON, THEY LITERALLY HAD NO OTHER OPTION because things got so bad: government, daily life, EVERYTHING either shut down or was directly impacted by the Orange Revolution and everyone knew it, they had no alternative but to tell the truth because otherwise they would have become a laughing stock.
Once the MSM finally began to accurately report what had been and was taking place: i.e., the corrupt Ukrainian government, the fraudulent election results, the mass scale of the Orange Revolution composed of honest, patriotic Ukrainians protestors who wanted an end to the corruption and free and fair elections, their whole "house of cards" collapsed.
The similarities between what took place in the Ukraine and what is happening here in the USA this election are almost identical. And I stand by my original premise that the peaceful protests of the Orange Revolution, held on a mass scale throughout America could succeed in overturning the fraudulent results here as well, should Hillary Clinton and the DNC, in collusion with the government and MSM try and steal this election through mass voter fraud.
Thank you for all this information. We have voted out a lot of bums in congress, but they didn’t accomplish a whole lot as far as I’m concerned. The house is supposed to hold the purse strings, and they had the power but were afraid to use it because they were too worried about being reelected. So Obama got all the money he wanted and what he didn’t get he just circumvented.
The other problem we have is so many immigrants not qualified to vote that do, but the establishment has overturned any effort to stop it. I don’t think you had that problem in Ukraine, or did you?
It is very different, but here the vote for president only has to be stolen in a few choice states and it’s stolen for all of us.
A lot of the junior members of the media were educated the Marxist way. The senior members just got invited to better parties by the democrats.
Very true. But now there are reports of FB, Twitter, Google and YouTube censoring conservative communication. They have that right as private companies, but they have pretty much a monopoly.
They don’t have enough jail space in some places like Clark County, NV.
A first hand account of real history.
Our very own Jmouse007 had lived through a stolen election in the Ukraine.
Pinging to Important Article.
Thanks Jmousse007 and Arthur.
THey should build more....that’s dingy Harry’s hang out isn’t it?
...government, daily life, EVERYTHING either shut down...
There are only so many roads going into DC. 18 wheelers make great roadblocks.
That said, even though we are a multicultural society and there are a lot of illegal aliens here, they are NOT Americans, they are NOT CITIZENS. If for any reason the election is stolen by the DNC government and media complex via mass voter fraud, ballot box stuffing, I guarantee there will be a mass, united, peaceful protest across the nation the likes of which we have never seen before.
I would like to believe you, but our corrupt justice department has made it almost impossible to check the registration of voters, even in states where they want to. I’m not being a fatalist, just really asking for your opinion and advice. Thank you.
The problem is, they couldn't and wouldn't be allowed to get away with it. The overwhelming majority of the people knew the election was rigged and stolen because the corrupt opposition had to resort to mass voter fraud in order to pull off the win... and the numbers didn't add up, sound familiar? Hillary Clinton is positively TOXIC, the majority of Americans, and even her own "supporters" can't stand her as evidenced by her miniscule number of supporters at all of her, Rapist Bill, Krazy Kane, and Chesley Clinton's rallies.
It has already been proven that Clinton surrogates, supporters and the DNC attempts at mass voter fraud and stuffing ballot boxes are taking place in key states. The good news: not only is it is being reported, people are turning these fraudsters in. Democrat voter fraud locations are being raided, people are being indicted and arrested, sworn affidavits detailing the fraud and those responsible are being filed. "Faulty" rigged electonic voting machines are being reported and several counties have already been replacing them with paper ballots instead... Trump is also admonishing his supporters to not mail their absentee ballot's in, but to personally hand deliver them and verify that they get placed directly into the ballot box.
My point in listing all of the above is this; like the situation in Ukraine people knew mass voter fraud had taken place in order to secure a win BUT, THE CITIZENS REJECTED AND LEGALLY CHALLENGED THE RESULTS. They also protested throughout the nation until the ballots were thoroughly examined and when the level of mass voter fraud was revealed and proven the courts nullified the fraudulent results and, in their case they instituted a new election.
Unlike McCain, or Romney, TRUMP IS A FIGHTER. He will not allow the results of a stolen Hillary Clinton win, based upon deceitful mass voter fraud, perpetrated by the corrupt DNC, aided and abetted by the duplicitous MSM to stand. HE WILL FIGHT! HE WILL unleash a multitude of legal teams to challenge the validity of the results all over the country. I am 100% certain Mr. Trump has already prepared for this contingency should it become necessary.
Once the voter fraud is proven, which it will be, ALL of the votes cast by dead people and illegal aliens etc... will be LEGALLY nullified and Crooked Hillary will lose the election because her win was based upon lies and fraud. This is exactly what happened in Ukraine as a direct result of the massive, peaceful protests of the Orange Revolution.
There is no doubt in my mind that the same mass protests and outcome would take place here in America as well because America's citizens are "mad as blazes and we're not going to take it anymore".
The only other option left if they steal the election and refuse to follow the rule of law is for Hillary Clinton, the DNC and corrupt government officials to resort to the use of violence, perpetrated by the government and law enforcement. I doubt this would happen because the overwhelming majority of police and law enforcement heartily supports Trump.
That said, if Hillary and the DNC resort to calling out the National Guard to crush the peaceful protests these troops would also likely reject their orders to use force against law abiding citizens because the vast majority of these soldiers also support Trump, BUT, more importantly they are sworn to uphold, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States from ALL ENEMIES, foreign AND DOMESTIC.
It is abundantly clear that Hillary Clinton and her cabal are criminals, engaged in a criminal enterprise, and that she has committed a plethora of felonies, INCLUDING TREASON! Therefore, it is highly unlikely that they would follow the order to resort to violence to crush the peaceful protests, "rebellion" in their minds.
However, if law enforcement, the National Guard or some other governmental authority resorted to active violence against American citizens in order to crush the protests and fraudulently, illegally install Hillary Clinton as President then "all bets are off"; they will "have awoken the sleeping giant, and filled him with terrible resolve".
That giant is highly proficient in the use of fire arms and armed to the teeth with over 300 million legally owned weapons along with billions of rounds of ammunition, and their actions to legally respond in kind to the violence perpetrated against them in order to defend their freedom, the Republic and the Constitution of the United States is guaranteed by said Constitution.
Simply put; they can abide by the rule of law concerning "free and fair elections" the "easy way" or "the hard way". If they willfully choose to resort to "the hard way" ... quoting the title of a movie: "There Will Be Blood" ... and they will ultimately, resoundingly lose.
So again, pray, vote and take heart.
Thank you.
According to reports, I’ve come to the conclusion that Russians are incredibly stoic, that they think it’s cowardly to flee in the face of gunfire.
And I assume the Ukrainians are the same, right?
Here in the US we are conditioned to ‘duck down’, flee to safety. Practical, but a different culture.
3 person line for Kaine...
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/11/three-people-line-see-tim-kaine-florida-photos
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My main concern was that Obama could shut off the internet and blame it on the Russians. But I think it’s safe to say that people will know the truth if that happens.
Yard sign disparity is another indicator.
Conclusion:
Jmouse007, you are correct. Orange Revolution is the most likely worst-case scenario although guns would be a part of it.
National guard would feel compelled to shoot back.
Hillary also has her Creamer goons, as exposed by O’Keefe’s Operation Veritas.
Well you’re right.
But JFK is not nearly the same as the Clinton Team.
This is a closer comparison to what we might face.
On researching this I noticed that ...
‘Viktor Yanukovych’
... is the name that Google seems to prefer.
And that, FRiend, means he was part of the Clinton Scandals!
Hillary Clinton’s Ukraine Problem
http://www.progressivepress.net/hillary-clintons-ukraine-problem-2
“Hillary and Bill Clinton run the Clinton Foundation, established by the couple. The foundation accepts monetary donations from foreign donors, amassing to billions of dollars. Some of the top donors of the foundation were Ukrainian oligarchs. One of them, Victor Pinchuk, was a former member of the Ukrainian Parliament and a strong advocate of Neoliberalism in Ukraine. Pinchuk became wealthy during chaotic privatization of large state enterprises after the country’s separation from the Soviet Union.”
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Now it gets weird ...
Reader Supported News journalist Steve Weisman’s report on how the Clinton led State Department laid the foundation for the regime change in Ukraine is an eye opener. It is truly one of the best investigative reporting pieces of our time, beginning with the evidence on the so called “rebel” who started the “revolution” against the Viktor Yanukovych administration. A polyglot Afghan immigrant who happened to work as a journalist in the news channel established by, none other than, the US Ambassador Geoffrey Pyatt. “Arriving in the Ukrainian capital on August 3 [2013], Pyatt almost immediately authorized a grant for an online television outlet called Hromadske.TV, which would prove essential to building the Euromaidan street demonstrations against Yanukovych.”
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So we are left with the bizarre hope that our own media, under the control of the Clintons will rebel the same way the Clintons helped ‘flip’ the Ukrainian media?
I was listening to a discussion on a podcast the other night ( forget who was talking) but they were postulating that with all of the rigged awareness and all of the enthusiasm for Trump and with all of the Wikileaks that are coming out, that it might just prevent them from doing what they had planned.
I think that might just be true. We will find out
I think that might just be true. We will find out
Praying you're right about this.
Thanks for the heads up as I prepare to defend our Northern border.
VOTE #TEXIT
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