Posted on 10/08/2016 12:07:46 PM PDT by Ben Mugged
OK, so Trump showed machismo when in a group of males by making "inappropriate" references to females. Machismo is the sense of being 'manly' and self-reliant, the concept associated with "a strong sense of masculine pride with the supreme valuation of characteristics culturally associated with the masculine and by implication some say, a denigration of characteristics associated with the feminine. It is associated with a mans responsibility to provide for, protect, and defend his family. Old school? Maybe, but get a group of males together with testosterone flowing and machismo shows up. I wouldn't give a plugged nickle for any male without that characteristic. Liberals want to define the behavior as abhorrent. I could name a host of liberal behaviors I could define that way. Given a choice between them, macho is not so bad.
I wasn’t saying they were the “measure of a man”. The original poster was describing the comments as “machismo”. I think the qualities I described qualify as “macho”, which is really all I was going for.
By your posts I see you are a Christian. I won’t insult a brother. But for what it’s worth, I like to think I have some measure of honesty as well, and it is intellectual honesty that is making me think this is not going away.
But noticed, under encouragement from Bush, the vignette he produces has him rebuffed. I might think SOME female would point this out. Not typical. “Warriors” regale one another recounting tales of victory, not defeat. SOMEONE might point out this vignette ACTUALLY is a display of humility.
No, it’s political bias making you think that.
So, you have NEVER had a dirty thought about another woman in your
life? Are you as pure as the driven snow?
Are you perfect like God?
The term “macho” was invented by progressives as they employed “critical theory.”
Critical theory is simply the movement to overthrow all forms of established tradition, in this case causing anti-male sentiment through the creation of a scapegoat.
The scapegoat, which you have fallen for, is “machismo.”
Honestly, the invasion of privacy does bother me; I admit that freely. I am not gleeful over this thing, I assure you.
I just don’t like having bragging about assaulting women being equated with locker room talk. That was my entire point. My “agenda” is a pretty thin hope that someone will change the ticket at this point.
Flattery is not Biblical.
Be a man, speak the truth to me.
Are you perfect like God?
I can see you know my motivations better than I do, so I will beg off from our discussion. We shall both see if this thing hurts him or not, I suppose.
And I won’t be happy about it if it does. Honestly.
Most males of my acquaintance have said such as this to other men at one time or another. I can only imagine that most democrat men discuss grabbing penises to other democrats.
My husband is a macho type man. Martial arts for decades, vol. firefighter, construction trade.
He would never say anything like what Trump said, and in fact, used to hang out with some guys who liked to hike in the mountains because it’s not so good to do by himself (mountain lions, cliffs etc) but stopped because they told dirty jokes.
He thinks that Trumps said crude stuff and HE DOESN’T CARE because he knows that Trump is the only thing between a USA that survives and turns in the right direction, or HELL.
Have you seen the Tom Cruise movie MINORITY REPORT? 'cuz that's where were pretty close to being.
I won't hold it against you if you don't express your honest feelings when your with the guys.
“My agenda is a pretty thin hope that someone will change the ticket at this point.”
Well then you need to find you way to the exit because JimRob made it clear that this crap the Gope is pulling, and those that want to partner up with it, isnt flying on FR.
Cheese-o Man,,
This election is just getting good and
“You People “ melt !!?
Ain’t saying You are,,,WTH!
YOU can’t even fight back without demeaning Yourself.
Nope, not perfect by a long shot. I have said things that I am not proud of, and will freely admit that I am glad they are not public knowledge.
My point was simply that this is not normal “guy talk”, or even the boasting of a narcissistic blowhard. This is a married man, talking about a married woman, and bragging about groping strangers. This is a bridge too far.
I make you this honest promise, no sarcasm. If I ever saw a woman relative of yours being groped by a stranger out of a sense of entitlement and fame, this imperfect guy would do all I could to lay him down.
“I can bench over 300lbs., restore muscle cars and classic tractors, can do most any type of construction, and can shoot fairly well.”
Plenty of liars and cheaters can do those things. Plenty of girly men not strong enough to admit their wrongdoings and apologize for them.
Trump apologized and told the truth.
I remember having my crotch grabbed while riding my 750 Honda 4 cylinder in Vegas by some Hot chick.
Can I say that?
Not sure where you felt I was flattering you. I assure you I was doing no such thing. I was extending a courtesy to a person who appears to be a fellow believer. I was doing so, not to win you over, but because I am under orders to do so, according to what I understand of the Pauline epistles. I am not even trying to persuade you.
If you would honestly like to know my further opinion on these matters, I am happy to have a private conversation with you over the freepmail.
“Two young women and a couple of nearby young men were murdered because the women had the initial, M.”
Now that I hadn’t heard about! When did this happen?
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