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1 posted on 09/22/2016 10:27:14 PM PDT by Celerity
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To: Celerity

You can rent jets.


2 posted on 09/22/2016 10:31:32 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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Next thing I’m working on - Why is the Heinz mansion on the Trump Mansion property ? The Trumps and Heinz’s relationship.

I can’t figure that stuff out. Obviously some strange stuff going on - Trump bought the Bedford mansion in 1996 hardly making it “Ancestral” but the Heinz mansion is on the property. The Drumpf and Heinz familys were close in Kallstadt, and I know that all of these people are related in one way or the other (Bushes, Rodhams, Kerrys, etc) but how in the world is this relationship mapped out ? Anyway. That’s another day and I’m not going to look into anything against Trump.

President Trump is the ONLY way that these United States of America survive. Period. I’m sure that Donald does NOT like Theresa and John (They are weaklings and such pathetic human beings that even their money can’t get them friends. True shitheels.)

And Ivanka isn’t friends with Chelsea. No one is friends with Chelsea. She’s wholly unlikeable and a pariah around Manhattan. Ivanka has been a-list since she was 8.


3 posted on 09/22/2016 10:33:09 PM PDT by Celerity
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1. It may be that Hillary wanted a plane that resembled the shape of Air Force One during the 70’s.

2. This airplane is being funded by the DNC.

3. It is a rental.


4 posted on 09/22/2016 10:33:28 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: Celerity

AFAIK Trump has a 757.


7 posted on 09/22/2016 10:39:03 PM PDT by Paladin2 (auto spelchk? BWAhaha2haaa.....I aint't likely fixin' nuttin'. Blame it on the Bossa Nova...)
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I saw Trumps plane parked in June as I was driving out of Newark airport. I thought it odd it was there and not at a NYC airport.

I also was in another airport this year for a longggg layover and saw the National Guard hanger across from one terminal. I later awoke to two foreign speaking guys snapping pictures of the hanger with telephoto lens. I found and told a guy dressed in police or security clothes and he laughed at me for thinking it suspicious.

As far as Hillary’s plane, i hadn’t noticed, but with the attitude she projects most of the time, I would think she would only want the best possible at all times.

this article seems to explain why “Heinz mansion is on Trump property”
http://www.forbes.com/sites/erincarlyle/2014/07/17/inside-seven-springs-the-lavish-mansion-where-the-trumps-spent-summers/#5cf00d1c5d67


12 posted on 09/22/2016 11:10:20 PM PDT by b4me (Idolatry is rampant in thoughts and actions. Choose whom you will serve....)
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I’ve rented private jets 5-6 times in my life

It’s not 25,000 an hour for personal jets

2000-10,000

Indeed it’s an indulgence

I had access to lease at cost a Lear 45 for qualifying hours or to position the bird

Not much more than first class for 6 of us plus accommodation for pilots

But somewhere like Aspen or Naples FL a Lear 45 is the entry level of private jets......tiny......like a Fiat


15 posted on 09/22/2016 11:26:39 PM PDT by wardaddy (free republic is an aging demographic)
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SkyDancer’s a professional pilot.


16 posted on 09/23/2016 12:57:19 AM PDT by Sir_Ed
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I believe Trump has a 757. Indeed, a jet that does not produce is a money killer. I am sure Hillary knows plenty of people who would let her use their private jet for speeches. All the jet setters greeting Obama at his inauguration was nauseating.

The Clinton Foundation has connections too. I think the Clintons are completely stupid logistically. Their money is from glorified school called government , and they destroy Air Force budgets but yet only want to fly exclusive Air Force to look cool and be comfy.

Go figure.


19 posted on 09/23/2016 2:46:53 AM PDT by lavaroise (s)
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Check with SkyDancer.


21 posted on 09/23/2016 4:27:39 AM PDT by AFreeBird (BEST. ELECTION. EVER!)
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You can only rent a Jet if it’s registered part 135 private owners register part 91 the difference is part 135 is more regulated because it’s not your plane part 91 is looser restrictions if you want to use a shorter runway that’s your decision because you are only putting yourself at risk not passengers


23 posted on 09/23/2016 5:19:49 AM PDT by edzo4 (You call us the 'Party Of No', I call us the resistance.)
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The only reason Killary is flying around in this worn out 60s painted up plane is to put the illusion of "poor destitute me" out there to the crowd of sheeple.

That is it in a nutshell. Now you can use your brain power on something more useful like why is water wet and dirt dry until water is mixed with it.

26 posted on 09/23/2016 6:17:14 AM PDT by eartick (Been to the line in the sand and liked it)
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Pretty sure Hillary’s 737 is a older model.
There’s a family of 737s. IFAIK all the newer models have engine nacelles that are flat across the bottom,ie the 737-800.
Her 737 nacelles are round. IMO makes this a very dated plane.

OTOH the 757 Trump has is the best. Very powerful rocket.
The few times I fly I check around to see if the airline has a 757 flying to my destination and book accordingly.
Sadly they are falling out of favor as they are narrow body. Can’t carry the large number of passengers the airlines want.
Delta still flies them.


27 posted on 09/23/2016 6:21:38 AM PDT by Vinnie
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I have no answers to your questions...

But I do know you have WAY too much time on your hands to be concerned this stuff...


29 posted on 09/23/2016 6:34:38 AM PDT by Popman
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General aviation (GA) has many levels, the top tier is jet aircraft - and there are multiple levels of jet aircraft. It mostly gets down to size and range.

Are jets expensive? Yes.

Can people/companies afford them? Yes.

They pay for themselves in time saved.

As another poster pointed out Trump can make 3-5 campaign stops a day.

As for your ‘old’ jet comment... It may be old, but it’s certified to fly which means it’s mechanically new and sound.

Aircraft are expensive due to governmental regulation. Sure the parts are inherently expensive but a single valve for a Continental four or six cylinder aircraft engine would not cost $400.00+ without government red tape and regulatory compliance.

GA has many ‘old’ aircraft that have not been manufactured for more than 30 years that are in great demand and are highly efficient - the Mitsubishi MU-2 and the Twin Commander 1000 for instance.

Take a $4,000,000 Cessna M2 flying out of the Vail airport (it’s short and at 6,500 feet in altitude). With one pilot and seven passengers the aircraft can fly to Chicago if it takes off before the temperature hits 60F.

The Twin Commander (NOT a jet but twin turboprop) can handle the same number of crew/passengers and can take off safely at 100F and fly to New York, The Bahamas or Miami (at 100 MPH slower, I admit) but it can do the trip with one additional passenger: the aircraft can do this flight with only one engine and the other prop inside the fuselage...quite a safety margin there!

Presidential political campaigns need heavy metal and they both have it. In January Trump will still own his 757 and Hillary will still be renting G4’s (if anyone will rent them for her). I expect Trump is moving up to a 747...and I will be happy to have him in it.


33 posted on 09/23/2016 6:50:40 AM PDT by BBB333 (Q: Which is grammatically correct? Joe Biden IS or Joe Biden ARE an idiot?)
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Hillary had to hire a flying bus to haul around the press posse. They won’t fit into a Gulfstream.


38 posted on 09/23/2016 7:14:32 AM PDT by Rebelbase (Bill and Hillary for ADX Supermax!)
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