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In U.S. Jails, a Constitutional Clash Over Air-Conditioning
nytimes.com ^ | 08/16/2016 | ALAN BLINDER

Posted on 08/16/2016 11:46:38 AM PDT by massmike

In places like Louisiana and Texas, sweltering states where elected officials cherish tough-on-crime credentials, it is politically poisonous to be perceived as coddling prisoners. And many officials simply say that temperatures are not anywhere near as dire as prisoners and their lawyers claim.

A spokesman for the Texas Department of Criminal Justice, which is facing an array of lawsuits over the issue of jail temperatures, including a class-action case, said in a statement that “the well-being of staff and offenders is a top priority for the agency and we remain committed to making sure that both are safe during the extreme heat.”

The disputes surrounding the climate of modern incarceration can be partly traced to 1981, when the Supreme Court concluded that “the Constitution does not mandate comfortable prisons.” About 35 years later, states, counties and cities are interpreting the court’s words in their own ways.

In Texas, state regulations require that temperatures in county jails “shall be reasonably maintained between 65 degrees Fahrenheit and 85 degrees Fahrenheit in all occupied areas.” But that standard does not apply to state prisons.

“Once these buildings heat up in the summertime, they never really do ever cool back down again,” Keith M. Cole, a plaintiff in the Texas class-action case, said at the Navasota prison where he is serving a life sentence for murder and is being treated for heart disease, diabetes and hypertension. “Air-conditioning to me wouldn’t be a comfort. It’s a necessity — it’s a medical necessity.”

“In the South, almost everybody has air-conditioning,” said Jeffrey S. Edwards, a lawyer for Mr. Cole. “This isn’t a luxury anymore. Almost everyone has it, except for these inmates.”

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Keith Cole, 62, who is serving a life sentence for a 1994 murder, is a plaintiff in a Texas class-action lawsuit claiming that high temperatures in prisons are inhumane.

1 posted on 08/16/2016 11:46:38 AM PDT by massmike
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As much as a law-and-order person as I am, prisons without AC in Texas is like being confined to a “hot-box” you see in prison camp movies. It can get to well over 100 degrees, health-threatening.


2 posted on 08/16/2016 11:50:14 AM PDT by rstrahan
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I can see having AC in a prison’s medical facility for at risk older/elderly inmates or those to whom extreme heat could be deadly - otherwise, nope.


3 posted on 08/16/2016 11:51:10 AM PDT by LouieFisk
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To: rstrahan

I took a peek into a jail in South America/ Colombia once. Believe me, these guys are in Shangri-La. Those folks had to have outsiders bring them FOOD if they wanted to eat, etc.


4 posted on 08/16/2016 11:51:38 AM PDT by bboop (does not suffer fools gladly)
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To: massmike

It cracks me up that public housing where I live has heat pump air conditioning. That should be a perk you get if you actually earn your living.

The prisons are as comfortable as at any time in US history. Nothing has changed. Nothing needs to.


5 posted on 08/16/2016 11:53:39 AM PDT by Mr. Douglas (Today is your life. What are you going to do with it?)
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To: rstrahan

...prisons without AC in Texas is like being confined to a “hot-box” you see in prison camp movies. It can get to well over 100 degrees, health-threatening.


When was that not the case?


6 posted on 08/16/2016 11:54:24 AM PDT by Mr. Douglas (Today is your life. What are you going to do with it?)
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To: rstrahan

How about our boys in Iraq or in the gulf on blacktop flight deck? How do they deal with their “hot box?”


7 posted on 08/16/2016 11:55:13 AM PDT by WilliamCooper1
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To: massmike

Blame it on John Kerry. He claims A/C is a threat to the planet. Just doin’ their bit for the cause, doncha know.


8 posted on 08/16/2016 11:55:48 AM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: massmike

Save the Earth!

Turn off the air conditioning in all prisons!

It’s a moral imperative!


9 posted on 08/16/2016 11:56:31 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (Freep mail me if you want to be on my Fingerstyle Acoustic Guitar Ping list.)
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To: Mr. Douglas

They watch TV ten hours a day and make homemade tattoo guns. If they were out on the chain gang 12 hours a day in the summer heat, I might be inclined to say that a little A/C for comfortable sleeping at night is in order.

Otherwise...NO.


10 posted on 08/16/2016 11:56:33 AM PDT by WilliamCooper1
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5 Things to Consider When Buying an Evaporative Cooler
Evaporative coolers - also known as swamp coolers - offer an eco-friendly, healthy, and cost-effective alternative to traditional air conditioning systems.
11 posted on 08/16/2016 11:57:25 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty and supped with infamy. Benjamiin Franklin)
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Carr: Them clothes got laundry numbers on them. You remember your number and always wear the ones that has your number. Any man forgets his number spends a night in the box. These here spoons you keep with you. Any man loses his spoon spends a night in the box. There's no playing grab-ass or fighting in the building. You got a grudge against another man, you fight him Saturday afternoon. Any man playing grab-ass or fighting in the building spends a night in the box. First bell's at five minutes of eight when you will get in your bunk. Last bell is at eight. Any man not in his bunk at eight spends the night in the box. There is no smoking in the prone position in bed. To smoke you must have both legs over the side of your bunk. Any man caught smoking in the prone position in bed... spends a night in the box. You get two sheets. Every Saturday, you put the clean sheet on the top... the top sheet on the bottom... and the bottom sheet you turn in to the laundry boy. Any man turns in the wrong sheet spends a night in the box. No one'll sit in the bunks with dirty pants on. Any man with dirty pants on sitting on the bunks spends a night in the box. Any man don't bring back his empty pop bottle spends a night in the box. Any man loud talking spends a night in the box. You got questions, you come to me. I'm Carr, the floor walker. I'm responsible for order in here. Any man don't keep order spends a night in...

Luke: ...the box.

Carr: I hope you ain't going to be a hard case.

12 posted on 08/16/2016 11:58:53 AM PDT by Steely Tom (Vote GOP: A Slower Handbasket)
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No more than in my grade school and high school in the 50’s.

Screw these pigs


13 posted on 08/16/2016 11:59:37 AM PDT by CGASMIA68 (kant spell er punktuate,fluncked english.Gramer to!!)
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Too Bad tough S#!T
Cant do the time don’t do the crime.


14 posted on 08/16/2016 12:00:30 PM PDT by CGASMIA68 (kant spell er punktuate,fluncked english.Gramer to!!)
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To: philman_36

Except they don’t work worth a darn in the climates discussed in the article.


15 posted on 08/16/2016 12:02:18 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: colorado tanker; P-Marlowe

Excellent, both of you!


16 posted on 08/16/2016 12:03:41 PM PDT by kosciusko51
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To: massmike

But John Kerry says that air conditioning is a greater threat than terrorists. Why should poor incarcerated criminals be exposed to such danger?


17 posted on 08/16/2016 12:03:43 PM PDT by Bubba_Leroy (Never Hillary)
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To: DuncanWaring
Except they don’t work worth a darn in the climates discussed in the article.

Yep. Evaporative coolers only work in low humidity climates. There are not very many of those in Texas or Louisiana.

18 posted on 08/16/2016 12:06:32 PM PDT by Bubba_Leroy (Never Hillary)
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Nope. I work in 100 degree plus heat running a machine. No ac for me and my health is suffering. Screw you if you are in jail sitting on your butt in the heat. If you have a problem with it maybe you shoulda thunk it over before you did what got you there. I cut steel and it’s hot, my metal working brothers in heat treat, welding, and foundry work got it worse, and they are are making a living not feeding off the system like this parasite.


19 posted on 08/16/2016 12:09:59 PM PDT by BudgieRamone (Everybody loves a bonk on the head.)
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Soon they won’t have to worry about A/C. obama is going to release all BLM types once they get obamalaw.That should clear out most of the prisons.


20 posted on 08/16/2016 12:13:06 PM PDT by ColdOne (poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11~White House Media=Goebbels)
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