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Game of Thrones Finale (Vanity - chime in)
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Posted on 06/29/2016 7:04:29 AM PDT by Enterprise

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To: Darnright

And see what? The confusion on his face as he tries to process what Margery is suggesting about the monstrous thing Cersi is about to do?


61 posted on 06/29/2016 8:58:33 AM PDT by yuleeyahoo (Those are my principles, and if you do not like them...well I have others. - Groucho Marx)
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To: Darnright; yuleeyahoo

Remember the barbarous way the High Sparrow allowed Cerci, Margaery, and Loras to be treated while they were in captivity. His outward appearance of gentleness was, IMO, betrayed by his treatment of prisoners. He was deseving of contempt from those who saw through his phony humbler than thou act.


62 posted on 06/29/2016 8:58:40 AM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: wardaddy
I will take your word for it as I don't watch GOT. I am just about ready to give up reading the books as the trilogy is now five books with no end in sight.

Like the White Walkers I have been waiting so long I have become bored and am contemplating just invading Canada.

63 posted on 06/29/2016 8:59:37 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Proud Infidel, Gun Nut, Religious Fanatic and Freedom Fiend)
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To: yuleeyahoo

I’d argue that point highly.

I see no difference in the Sparrow and the worst of them, other than he doesn’t kill those who he needs to take out to claim their power, just locks them up and tortures them until they are broken, no different than Ramsay.. other than no murder and more subtle in his mental abuse and manipulations, but at the end of the day just as evil and self serving.


64 posted on 06/29/2016 8:59:55 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: Darnright

“Jon (so is his actual surname, “Fire, or Flame”?).”

Nah, “Snow” is a bastard’s name, all the bastards from the north get that last name. The other bastard names are Sand, Waters, Rivers, Stone, Flowers, and Storm, but there is no “Fire”.

Now, technically he was born in the Marches so he could be called “Jon Waters”. Hmm, he does hang out with a cross-dresser now that I think about it...


65 posted on 06/29/2016 9:00:07 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Darnright

I hope Sansa comes out of this intact. I am definitely rooting for Arya.


66 posted on 06/29/2016 9:01:24 AM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

He may indeed be a true believer, but as you say, this means anything is okay, as long as HE perceives the end result is the greater good... and that is just as evil as any sadist that ever walked the earth.


67 posted on 06/29/2016 9:01:37 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: Enterprise

The High Sparrow came from a background of affluence. He found peace and fulfillment through austerity and self-denial.

Since so many others appeared to be helped by his message, it would be reasonable for him to conclude that this is the remedy Westeros needs.

Loras, Margery & Cersi needed to be shown that they were no better than anyone else. Taking them out of their safezone would be the fastest way to reach them.


68 posted on 06/29/2016 9:04:54 AM PDT by yuleeyahoo (Those are my principles, and if you do not like them...well I have others. - Groucho Marx)
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To: Darnright

“This begs the question, is Tyrion the son of a Targaryen, instead of Tywin Lannister’s child?”

There’s a longstanding theory that Tyrion is the bastard son of Joanna Lannister (Tywin’s wife) and Aerys Targaryen (Dany’s father). Apparently Aerys had a thing for her, and we know that Tywin repeatedly said he didn’t believe that Tyrion was his son, he just couldn’t prove it.

Also, all the Lannisters generally have blonde hair, especially the children of two Lannisters. Tywin and Joanna were both Lannisters, they were cousins. Just like Jaime and Cersei, we would expect all their kids to have blonde hair, but Tyrion has blonde hair streaked with black, so that is another clue that he could be a bastard.


69 posted on 06/29/2016 9:04:57 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: jonno
Jamie also said that Cersei would do anything to protect here babies. I think that look Jamie has when he is watching Cersei be crowned Queen is his horrified realization that she is ultimately more interested in power than in protecting her babies. I believe he will ultimately be forced to kill the Mad Queen to prevent more slaughter.
70 posted on 06/29/2016 9:05:45 AM PDT by drjimmy
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To: Boogieman

The passage of time is the explanation. Sometimes things happen in the blink of an eye, when in reality it just took time.


71 posted on 06/29/2016 9:06:08 AM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: Boogieman

Interesting... I hadn’t caught that the different houses had different names for the bastards.

You mentioned 6 bastard names.

There are 7 kingdoms/Houses.

I wonder if Fire/Flame could be the bastard name of a Targarion. That would make Jon Snow both Flame and Snow or..
both Fire and Ice!


72 posted on 06/29/2016 9:07:57 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (You can't spell Hillary without using the letters L, I, A, R)
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To: SpinnerWebb

“Arya appeared as a 6 year old girl to the guy in the brothel who liked little kids.”

Where do they mention the girl’s age? All I saw was a young girl in a baggy robe, you couldn’t tell without looking at the face whether the girl was 6 or 12.


73 posted on 06/29/2016 9:09:06 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman

Good catch!

You could be right.


74 posted on 06/29/2016 9:09:32 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (You can't spell Hillary without using the letters L, I, A, R)
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To: yuleeyahoo
"Loras, Margery & Cersi needed to be shown that they were no better than anyone else. Taking them out of their safezone would be the fastest way to reach them."

To me, his methods made him no better than them. He was just another tyrant, clothed differently.

75 posted on 06/29/2016 9:10:05 AM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: HamiltonJay

Yep, it’s inquisition’ish or Islamic’ish !


76 posted on 06/29/2016 9:10:44 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (You can't spell Hillary without using the letters L, I, A, R)
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To: Enterprise

He had to have spoken at some point between the Twins and King’s Landing even if we didn’t see it. That’s a long ride!

Besides, Jaime can’t be dead, he’s still got plot armor. You don’t kill a character who is only halfway through a redemption arc, that’s writing 101.


77 posted on 06/29/2016 9:11:00 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: ChiefJayStrongbow
Also, the promotion of female leadership by HBO seems a bit over the top ... perhaps timed for the upcoming election?

I have noticed this as well. Not only on GOT, but elsewhere.

On Preacher, the Preacher is a fairly clueless dude, but his former sidekick, Tulip, is driven and kicks ass.

On Killjoys, the leader of the mercenaries is a woman.

On Hunters, the leader of the CIA group hunting the alien terrorists is a woman.

There is, of course, Secretary of State, which was one long Hillary Clinton commercial.

In fact, thinking back to just about every action show or movie I have seen in the past year, women have been either leaders or in a leadership role.

78 posted on 06/29/2016 9:11:06 AM PDT by Crusher138 ("Then conquer we must, for our cause it is just")
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To: HamiltonJay

I think a lot of people don’t consider it that much of a revelation, because the evidence for it was so strong in the books, they just take it as a given.

It’s a bigger surprise to the show watchers, but if you read the books, it more like “finally, we got that out of the way”.


79 posted on 06/29/2016 9:12:27 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: HamiltonJay

I see it differently.

Reminder your oppressors that they too are mortal and that they should have more respect for the working man, is no in of itself a bad thing.

The Church represents the best opportunity to rail in the excesses of the elites that the commons have. The alternatives are to hope for an eventual benevolent despot or start a doomed revolt.

The fact that some elites had to endure some mild discomfort that they regularly inflict on the commoners is part of the Sparrows tough love program.


80 posted on 06/29/2016 9:13:40 AM PDT by yuleeyahoo (Those are my principles, and if you do not like them...well I have others. - Groucho Marx)
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