Posted on 05/28/2016 11:01:25 AM PDT by BenLurkin
hould children be allowed in art galleries?
In 2014 Jake Chapman caused a minor furore, and prompted a lot of column inches, when he said that taking kids to galleries was a “waste of time”.
He told The Independent parents were "arrogant" for thinking their children could understand artists like Jackson Pollock or Mark Rothko, adding "children are not human yet".
The two children in this video, which has been going viral in recent days, clearly couldn’t give a hoot what Jake Chapman has to say about their appreciation of art.
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And as their parents look on, filming their offspring enjoying themselves, the kids get up close to one exhibit – a sculpture called “Angel Is Waiting” by Shelly Xue – and start touching it.
One of them pull sit away from the wall, it falls back – and breaks.
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The parents of those children should have to pay for the ruined sculpture, no matter how pathetic it was, since they were unwilling to keep their spawn under control
Laz, that is not nice. I paint to eat. American flags (standard, LEO, fireman, historical), poetry, vintage advertisements and historical political cartoons such as “Join, or die.”, special orders on salvaged wood. Requires some talent; i.e., drawing, design, composition, color, refinishing tecniques. BUT my love is large scale original abstract oil paintings on canvas. I start with something and remove reality but retain the emotion. Much harder to do but when successful they fetch much more money.
No, that’s true. Most artists have to conquer basic drawing and drafting skills before they can branch out into more avant garde forms. You can see that in the early work of Picasso. Now, Pollack didn’t have great technique apparently but was able to turn his lack of skill into a virtue. His amazing ability to just launch paint on large canvases exactly where he wanted them to go are feats in and of themselves. This can be seen to wonderful effect in the movie about his life starring Ed Harris.
Quite interesting and not to everyone’s taste.
Great movie and you’re right not to everyone’s taste. My ex couldn’t get through it. He left the room and house.
Oh, I enjoyed the movie. Especially the scenes of him creating those immense canvases. I was really referring to the art itself, not necessarily the movie. Pollack was one bad drunk, wasn’t he? The movie told the truth.
Modern are is the emperor’s new clothes.
Modern art is the emperor’s new clothes.
Too many years in Georgia, I suppose.
You have other qualities, my dear Laz, that endear you to Freeper world and beyond. Not appreciating Pollock is not a knock. He’s very hard to appreciate.
The first thing that people should remember when railing against “modern art” is that, as a trend, it died in the 70’s. It has given way to conceptualism, postmodernism, AND a revival of traditional painting.
Conceptualism is likely something that will still annoy those that don’t care for “modern” art but you aren’t likely to participate in it. If you aren’t participating in the conversation then your voice can be safely ignored as irrelevant. If you want to join the conversation learn some theory and some history because it’s mostly a philosophy and critical theory now. It’s not so much elitist as it is difficult for new comers. Like Magic: The Gathering after ten years of expansions. You COULD learn all those rules and buy hundreds of cards but only if you are REALLY tuned into the game.
Just let it slide by as the geekery of no concern to you that it is.
Postmodernism is a short run that, in the end, really only helps move us past modernism in a different way than conceptualism. It’s sort of a mid-wife to what comes next. It plays with materials and ideas as well but ultimately leads to a reaffirmation of painting itself as the preferred method of art creation for artists. Charles Saatchi even said as much and announced that his galleries would begin selling off to their Tracy Emin pieces in favor of actual paintings.
So begins a new period of renaissance in painting. Kinda. Sure, It’s going to stray into subjects you probably don’t like. It’s going to treat things tenderly you think should be handily harshly. It will treat what you consider obscene as typical. Because postModernism has taught these artists than no viewpoint is monolithic they will do all that AND work that you love.
So stop worrying that past movements that you don’t care for are still represented in museums of past movements. Get over the devotion that you think is undeserved. Go live and join the RIGHT NOW that probably has a lot you like.
(hug)
:)
Hugs back. Pollack’s paintings are often mistaken for linoleum, by the way. We had it in our house circa 1965.
Wow! Few see floors as a canvas. I paint floorcloth designs from the 1939 Armstrong pattern book.
My gosh. I just looked those up - they are really inspirational. Thanks for letting me know about Armstrong patterns! I may put those up on my facebook page. I love all art and textiles from the 20s and 30s.
Interesting post. Thought provoking for me.
Thank you :)
And try local art galleries rather than museums!
Museum shows are for work that’s almost assured to go down in history - even new work. You’ll be seeing Lots of work like that over the years if you visit museums.
Cutting edge stuff is in the galleries where young people and old hands are just trying to do great work instead of historical resumes. :)
Interesting post. We recently rejoined the MFA in Boston. I never tire of visiting it.
When my son was about 8 we took him to a Piccaso exhibit. About half way through he came to me and said, “Dad? I don’t think he’s done with these yet.”
Very perceptive and exactly what I have always thought.
Later we went and watched the Blue Angles practice for Fleet Week. Much more fun.
make it out of glass, some clod breaks it, no complaint comin’.
There are repeated news stories of art exhibits thrown out as trash because they weren’t clearly art. Collections of trash, leftovers of someone eating a meal and leaving stuff everywhere, etc.
I will say in this case, it was obviously sculpture, and the parents should have kept the kids away, if only to not get cut by something sharp.
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