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Okay, you asked for it. Well, maybe you didn't but here it is anyway. :>)
1 posted on 05/09/2016 10:43:00 AM PDT by rktman
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For the average non military CQ Combat trained shooter, neither is good for home defense.

The .22Lr would feel like a bee sting in just about every part of your body (except the head.)

Using a long rifle in the home is unwieldy.

We use a double barreled shot gun for that. If it comes down to using it in the house for defense, I don’t give a shit about the walls.


2 posted on 05/09/2016 10:47:11 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (Ask Bernie supporters two questions: Who is rich. Who decides. In the past, that meant who died.)
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#6 shot in a 12ga. perfect for apartments. Noisy but won’t penetrate dry wall.


4 posted on 05/09/2016 10:49:20 AM PDT by SkyDancer ("Nobody Said I Was Perfect But Yet Here I Am")
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IF .223 THEN frangible ammo for home defense.

ELSE your rounds can perform a full house penetration.

.22LR can also over penetrate and aint terribly lethal unless you place a lot of rounds in your target.

If you are rightfully concerned about drywall penetration, then consider getting a Remington 870 Tactical shotgun, and load it with NON-magnum 2 3/4” shells and #8 shot.

My two cents.


8 posted on 05/09/2016 10:55:28 AM PDT by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur: non vehere est inermus)
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I would never compare the two. Other than bullet diameter they have nothing in common. I go 9mm + 12ga + 00 buck. That’s naught - naught buck to the media.


9 posted on 05/09/2016 10:56:32 AM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie
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Shot gun is the way to go. 12 gauge with #3 or #4 shot.


11 posted on 05/09/2016 10:57:07 AM PDT by b4its2late (A Liberal is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own.)
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Using a rifle or shotgun indoors could be unwieldly. Consider using a larger caliber pistol instead. You should research frangible bullets, such as the GLASER SAFETY SLUG. They are designed not to penetrate sheetrock walls but also provide much better knockdown power than a .22 bullet.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glaser_Safety_Slug


13 posted on 05/09/2016 10:57:44 AM PDT by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves. Socialism is governmental theft!)
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False dilemma.

12 gauge


14 posted on 05/09/2016 10:58:15 AM PDT by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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I agree with the shotgun comments. Love my Pardner and it was cheap.


15 posted on 05/09/2016 10:58:45 AM PDT by Snowybear
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I remember talking to a Sheriffs Deputy who lost a friend and fellow officer to a felon.

The felon on drugs was shot three times in the chest with three 45ACP rounds, one round even nicked his heart. The felon although mortally wounded was still able to shoot back and kill the police officer.

I wouldn’t depend on a .22lr to stop an attacker quickly.

Instead use a .223(5.56) with a forty grain hollow point bullet. It will still have tremendous knockdown power (traveling 3300 feet per second) at short range and the hollow point design of the bullet should minimize the penetration of the projectile through walls.


20 posted on 05/09/2016 11:02:58 AM PDT by pleasenotcalifornia
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The rain has stooped, go outside and go shooting!!! You must be bored to start a drywall penetration thread!!!!


22 posted on 05/09/2016 11:04:06 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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Hmm, sounds like I need to add this to the corollary section of the 5 rules of a gun fight.

1) Gun beats no gun.
Corollary:
- if your gun is to big, heavy, ugly or whatever to carry and you leave it at home, you have no gun.
- if you run out of bullets or can’t clear your jam, you have no gun
[new]
- if you are afraid to shoot for fear of hitting others, you have no gun


23 posted on 05/09/2016 11:04:23 AM PDT by taxcontrol
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26 posted on 05/09/2016 11:04:59 AM PDT by Ronald_Magnus
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H&R Pardner Tactical Shotgun $ 199 problem solved


28 posted on 05/09/2016 11:05:49 AM PDT by Donglalinger
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Home defense starts here.


31 posted on 05/09/2016 11:07:14 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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So the lesson here is, make sure, that is, MAKE SURE you hit the bad guy, because if you don’t, the bullet is going to end up WAY past where you think it will end up. The question I’m left with, I wonder about birdshot as opposed to 00 Buckshot.


32 posted on 05/09/2016 11:08:38 AM PDT by Wingy
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I vote for the .22LR pistol for a pillow gun and general purpose, self-defense weapon.

Compared with the larger caliber hand cannons, and setting drywall penetration concerns and needlessly endangering neighbors with your trash problem, less is more.

The .22LR offers less noise, less flash, less weight and less recoil, all of which adds up to faster repeat shots on target, as fast as you can squeeze that trigger. Less money per round, too, assuming you can find any.

Those advantages become even more significant if you're older or smaller or weaker or are dealing with injury or arthritis or are a bit gun shy or are simply out of practice.

As always and with all things, ymmv.

36 posted on 05/09/2016 11:13:03 AM PDT by GBA (Here in the matrix, life is but a dream.)
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Some people load shotgun shells with rock salt.

Solid (crystal) Drano, on the other hand.......


37 posted on 05/09/2016 11:14:08 AM PDT by RedStateRocker (Better questions that can't be answered than answers that can't be questioned.)
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Ping for later, some of these comments are hysterical.


46 posted on 05/09/2016 11:28:31 AM PDT by Dusty Road (")
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If you live in an area where houses are close together or work in an office building where businesses are close together...a good choice is a 9mm semi-auto like the Ruger LC9 or a S&W .38 revolver.

Both loaded with frangible rounds. They pack a punch but dissipate their energy laterally very quickly. If you hit the target you do damage. If you miss, they won't penetrate the walls.


47 posted on 05/09/2016 11:29:13 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (#BlackOlivesMatter)
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223 doesn’t tumble. Get a shotgun. Just racking it will often send an intruder packing.


49 posted on 05/09/2016 11:30:19 AM PDT by Seruzawa (If you agree with the French raise your hand. If you are French raise both hands)
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