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To: Swordmaker

Have they done a blood type test on the Veronica’s veil that is not at the Vatican. I can never remember how to spell the town


43 posted on 04/17/2016 2:34:06 PM PDT by RummyChick
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I’m pretty sure it is the same blood type on the veil as the shroud. DNA and stuff I don’t know.


45 posted on 04/17/2016 2:38:53 PM PDT by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts It is happening again.)
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To: RummyChick
Have they done a blood type test on the Veronica’s veil that is not at the Vatican. I can never remember how to spell the town

There's no blood on the Manoppello Veil. . . but there is pigment.

I deconstructed the claim that the Manoppello Veil was anything related to Jesus several years ago. I showed evidence that it was a self-portrait of Raphael Sanzio de Urbino which he painted on either Byssus (the rarest cloth in the world) or Cambric (a very fine cotton veil material), which he then sent to his pen pal and fellow artist Albrecht Dürer, who was also experimenting with painting on Byssus. There were extant letters between the two of them describing the paintings the two sent back and forth mentioning the double-sided nature and the transparent media. These letters and paintings were done about 100 years prior to the Manoppello image appearing in the village in the possession of a soldier.

The image appears to be almost identical to a self-portrait of Raphael at the age he was when he and Dürer were sending their experimental double-sided portraits back and forth to each other. As I said, the Manoppello veil has distinct pigment, especially on the areas where the white teeth and whites of the eyes show.

If it was Byssus, it would be highly unlikely to have been in the possession of some woman on the streets of Jerusalem. Byssus was woven from the golden or purple tendrils of a sea urchin. Such cloth was reserved for royalty in the Roman times, being literally worth a kings ransom because it was so hard to collect the raw material and so hard to weave. Possession by anyone other than Royalty was a crime. Cambric Cotton would be even further impossible because it was an invention of 13th Century French cotton weavers and required a loom that wouldn't be invented for 1200 years.

The Veronica's Veil held by the Vatican, which the legend of Manoppello holds was stolen by the soldier, is still in the Vatican. . . and it is a Linen Sudarium (a sweat cloth) that bears a bloody imprint of a face that doesn't look like much. It would be much more logically the veil or head cloth of a woman walking on a Jerusalem street than a cloth made of Byssus or Cambric Cotton.

61 posted on 04/17/2016 4:06:56 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue..)
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