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Serious Question for Cruz Supporters (VANITY)
04/14/2016 | Les Dowrey

Posted on 04/14/2016 12:42:16 PM PDT by LesDowrey

If Ted Cruz were to win the GOP Nomination on the 2nd ballot or further down the line, he will have won the GOP nomination based on STOPPING Trump, not SUPPORTING Ted. That's not really a great way to win is it? Also, if he couldn't beat Trump at the ballot box, how will he beat Hillary?


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: 2016; convention; donaldtrump; tedcruz; vanity
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To: The_Republic_Of_Maine

Are you willing to fight, kill and if needs be die for your guy?

We are!

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LOL.

Yes, the anonymous poster brigade will surely smite all of Trump’s enemies.

Perhaps we could cast Sarah Palin in the role of Jean D’Arc?


81 posted on 04/14/2016 1:37:54 PM PDT by dmz
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To: LesDowrey

“Also, if he couldn’t beat Trump at the ballot box, how will he beat Hillary?”

That’s it! If you say a conservative can’t beat Hillary, then conservatives should stop all this opposing liberals stuff. Support Trump.

But to win the presidency, Trump is going to have to get a large share of the intelligent vote.

Which raises another question: When will Trump start campaigning to win the intelligent vote?


82 posted on 04/14/2016 1:38:32 PM PDT by jeffersondem
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To: LesDowrey
Also, if he couldn't beat Trump at the ballot box, how will he beat Hillary?

Is that an honest question, or a propaganda tool used to influence the weak-minded?

Do you know how polls and sample groups work?

Do you realize that a different group of people are voting in republican primaries than are being polled in general election polls?

83 posted on 04/14/2016 1:42:38 PM PDT by Washi (I was on FR way back when FR supported conservatism. (Please see O'Sullivan's First Law))
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To: Jim Robinson
I will support our GOP nominee whoever he is to the hilt against the godless American-hating Marxist democrat. Will be happier than a lark if either of our two fine anti-establishment candidates gets the nod. You?

+1

84 posted on 04/14/2016 1:44:21 PM PDT by Washi (I was on FR way back when FR supported conservatism. (Please see O'Sullivan's First Law))
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To: sargon
“The same polls back in 1980 had Reagan 25 points behind Carter at this juncture.”

I hate to put you on the spot but since you seem to know Trump . . . I'd just like for you to tell me straight-up that Trump is a Reagan conservative.

85 posted on 04/14/2016 1:44:28 PM PDT by jeffersondem
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To: LesDowrey

Hillary is far less popular than Obama

Obama barely won in 2012.

Romney lost because conservatives were de-motivated to turn out and vote.

Cruz is very conservative and motivating. That is obvious in the record turnout in primaries thoughougt this election primary season. That is true in states won by Cruz and Trump.

270towin.com shows the exact answers to your questions and Cruz does much better on this prospective problem than Trump.


86 posted on 04/14/2016 1:44:51 PM PDT by lonestar67 (Trump is anti-conservative / Cruz 2016)
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To: schaef21
They said the same thing about Reagan...... over & over & over & over.

Not even close! Reagan was endearing, charming, and funny...none of which can be said for Ted Cruz. Not by any stretch of the imagination.

87 posted on 04/14/2016 1:46:35 PM PDT by pgkdan (The Silent Majority Stands With TRUMP!)
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To: Leto

He’s in worse shape per the only polls that matter. The vote that has already taken place.


88 posted on 04/14/2016 1:47:14 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!)
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To: The_Republic_Of_Maine

——Kind of simple really, by the use of force, instead of President Trump at the ballot it will be General Trump the leader of the Second Revolution, but this time the North and the South will be united.-——

Wow, that’s seriously delusional....

You are willing to kill for Trump ? Really...?

My I suggest a mental evaluation is in order...

You haven’t figured out yet when and if Trump wins he will get real cozy with both the GOPe and the libtards....

He’s a deal maker, not an ideologue....


89 posted on 04/14/2016 1:47:31 PM PDT by Popman (Christ alone: My Cornerstone...)
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To: dmz

You are correct 35%. but still that will move either candidate quite a bit.


90 posted on 04/14/2016 1:47:49 PM PDT by jimpick
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To: sargon

Anyone can see on 270towin.com that Cruz does much better than Trump at possibly beating Hillary.

Cruz has more than three times the electoral votes as Trump.

If he chose Kasich as his running mate, he could dramatically improve RNC chances in places like Ohio and Pennsylvania.


91 posted on 04/14/2016 1:48:47 PM PDT by lonestar67 (Trump is anti-conservative / Cruz 2016)
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To: CA Conservative
And yet it is Trump that the polls show Hillary beating in solidly red states like Utah, Mississippi, etc...

Only an idiot believes general election polling this far from election day. Those polls are done to mold opinion not reflect it. Reagan should have called it quits in April of 1980 by your logic.

92 posted on 04/14/2016 1:48:52 PM PDT by pgkdan (The Silent Majority Stands With TRUMP!)
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To: Conservative Gato

Do you think Cruz is obligated to support Trump getting delegates.


93 posted on 04/14/2016 1:50:20 PM PDT by Rik0Shay
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To: fortheDeclaration

Do you avoid everything reading and listening to everything Cruz says with such devotion that you missed out on the fact that Cruz has done exactly that?

Both camps have been calling on kasich to drop out for weeks.


94 posted on 04/14/2016 1:51:39 PM PDT by Outlaw76 (Conservative, Showman, Rino. Make your choice wisely.)
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To: CA Conservative

Pardon?


95 posted on 04/14/2016 1:52:33 PM PDT by wardaddy (gonna need a lot of rope and lamposts and gibbets after this primary season.....)
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To: Nervous Tick

The 1100 number is only part of the story. The guy who said it thinks that it should be easy for trump to get the remaining delegates to get over 50% if he gets to 1100. The process won’t stop when he gets 1100. He’ll still have to prove that he can lead the party by getting at least 1237 delegates.


96 posted on 04/14/2016 1:54:44 PM PDT by Outlaw76 (Conservative, Showman, Rino. Make your choice wisely.)
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To: Outlaw76

>> The guy who said it thinks that it should be easy for trump to get the remaining delegates to get over 50% if he gets to 1100.

Yes, and who knows. I take pretty much all of those “wonk people” and their blather with a huge grain of salt.

I have voted (for Cruz); I’ll now watch with interest as actual events unfold and not worry too much about what “those guys” say will unfold.


97 posted on 04/14/2016 1:57:48 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (There is no "allah" but satan, and mohammed was his demon-possessed tool.)
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To: LesDowrey

Go ‘way, newb.


98 posted on 04/14/2016 1:57:53 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("The world is full of wonder, but you see it only if you look." ~NicknamedBob)
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To: Outlaw76

I like your tag line, by the way. Clever.


99 posted on 04/14/2016 1:59:05 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (There is no "allah" but satan, and mohammed was his demon-possessed tool.)
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To: wardaddy

Utah poll Clinton 38, Trump 36
MS poll, Trump 46, Clinton 43 (OK, he leads withing the margin of error, but this is a state he should be leading by 20 points).
Arizona poll Trump 38, Clinton 38
Texas Trump 39, Clinton 37

You begin to see a trend here? He is within the margin of error AT BEST against Clinton in deep red states that he should be leading by double digits! And that is BEFORE the Clinton machine really starts to go after him.


100 posted on 04/14/2016 2:02:13 PM PDT by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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