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No, Trump can't win
The Washington Examiner ^ | April 11, 2016 | Timothy P. Carney

Posted on 04/12/2016 5:30:16 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

If Republicans nominate Donald Trump, they nearly cede the White House to Hillary Clinton. Trump wouldn't merely be an underdog in the general election. He would be the worst Republican nominee since Alf Landon 80 years ago.

The polls show Trump would be a disaster. To date, Trump's message control has been a disaster, and it would be a disaster in the general election. His political inexperience, which has hamstrung him in the primary cycle, would be a disaster in the fall.

All indications suggest a Trump versus Hillary battle would be a one-sided affair.

Poll problems

Donald Trump would be the most disliked major-party nominee in the history of favorability polling.

The only presidential candidate to beat him in unfavorability never got close to the nomination: Former Ku Klux Klan Grand Wizard David Duke, who had 69 percent unfavorable ratings in 1992 — and Duke was within the margin of error of Trump, who is currently at 67 percent unfavorable in a late-March ABC/Washington Post poll.

That means that for every American who has a favorable view of Donald Trump, more than two others have an unfavorable view. A majority of the country, 56 percent, have a "strongly unfavorable" view in that survey. Trump's 37 percentage-point net unfavorable rating makes Democratic front-runner Clinton, who is 6 percent underwater in favorability ratings, look more than likable enough.

A clear majority, 59 percent, do not find Clinton honest and trustworthy. That's much better than Trump, who is found dishonest or untrustworthy by 69 percent. Trump polls worse than Clinton on basically every question.

When asked if the candidate:

• "Understands the problems of people like you?" Clinton is in the negative, but still has a 13-point edge on Trump.

• "Has the right kind of experience to be president?" Clinton has a 40-point lead, 66-26, over Trump.

• "Has the personality and temperament it takes?" Clinton is 33 points stronger.

Trump would be the least-respected, least-liked major party nominee since polling began.

That's why Clinton leads Trump by double digits in most recent polls, with an average of 10.6 percent according to RealClearPolitics. She has led Trump in the RCP average for the entire campaign. That lead grew steadily throughout March, ever since Clinton and Trump became the clear front-runners for their party nominations.

Compare that to past elections. In the first half of April 2012, President Obama's lead over Mitt Romney hovered between 2.3-5.3 percent. Obama's largest lead in the RealClearPolitics average at any point in 2012 was 5.9 percent. Obama held a double-digit lead over Romney in only one poll after March 1, 2012.

Obama's largest lead over John McCain was eight points.

The problem isn't just Clinton's lead. It's Trump's apparent ceiling: His average in head-to-head national polls against Clinton has never climbed above 44 percent, and he's been hovering around 40 percent since Super Tuesday.

Electoral college

No Republican has ever won the White House without carrying Ohio, and Trump is looking bad in Ohio. Clinton beat Trump in all three Ohio polls conducted in March, by an average of six points.

Any review of the Electoral College looks ugly for Trump.

The website "270 to Win" looked at polling averages and found Clinton carrying 260 electoral votes to Trump's 115 votes, with 165 up for grabs. Clinton's vote total on the site doesn't include Minnesota, Iowa, Ohio or Florida, all states where Clinton has to be considered the favorite. If Clinton carried Minnesota, Ohio or Florida — any one of those — she would win.

Look at every other swing state. In New Hampshire, Trump trails in every poll this year, most recently by eight points. In Florida, Clinton leads by eight in the latest poll and 2.2 percent in the RealClearPolitics average. Clinton beat Trump in the only Iowa poll. Clinton beat Trump by 17 points in the only Virginia poll this year.

Trump says he can expand the electoral map and win in places Republicans haven't won in decades, such as Michigan and Pennsylvania. The polls don't concur.

Trump trails Clinton in Michigan by double digits in two polls conducted in late March. Every Michigan poll this year has shown Trump losing to Clinton significantly, and the margin grew after the Michigan GOP Primary, which Trump won.

Clinton led Trump in every Pennsylvania poll in March, most recently by 13 points. Trump hasn't cracked 40 percent in a single Pennsylvania survey this year.

Trump lacks the political skills

In some ways, Trump is a phenomenally effective politician. He couldn't have gotten to 45 percent nationally in a crowded field otherwise. He couldn't have won 20 states including New Hampshire, South Carolina and Florida otherwise.

But he appears to lack the political skills to win in a general election.

First, we should expect Trump to flop in the debates. Trump had success in GOP primaries, but there was a reason he called them off — refusing to participate in a post-Florida Fox News debate and ignoring Ted Cruz's calls for one-on-one debates. Trump thrived in crowded debates where all he had to do was rudely put down Jeb Bush or Marco Rubio and where he could get away with always changing the topic.

In the less-crowded debates after South Carolina, Trump looked worse. Rubio exposed Trump's utter shallowness on healthcare policy, and Trump found himself flailing in policy areas where he was way out of his depth. Recent interviews, in which television journalists Anderson Cooper, John Dickerson and Chris Matthews pressed Trump on abortion or nuclear proliferation, exposed his incompetence.

In a one-on-one debate against Clinton, Trump's lack of policy knowledge and critical thinking skills would be glaring.

There's also the boorishness problem.

Despite all the talk about equality and equity, and treating women the same as men, we don't really live that way. Men are still expected to treat women with more courtesy than men treat other men. Put another way: You can be a boorish bully toward men in ways you can't toward women.

Trump probably helped himself by interrupting, insulting and sneering at Bush and Rubio. It may have been deliberate on his part, but it's also his personality. When he behaves that way toward Clinton, he will accomplish the incredible: making Americans feel sympathetic toward her.

Rick Lazio and Obama both learned that the hard way. In 2000, as Clinton was campaigning against soft money, Lazio walked across the stage, handed her a pledge to forego soft money and prodded her to sign it. Clinton was as evasive and equivocating as always, but with him leaning over her, pointing his finger at a small mother in a pastel pants suit, Lazio looked like a bully.

In New Hampshire in 2008, as Clinton gave a cheesy answer on her likability, Obama interjected with an offhand joke. "You're likable enough, Hillary," he said, a bit tersely. He lost New Hampshire.

Americans expect men to treat women with courtesy. Clinton would find it the easiest thing in the world to tease out Trump's rudeness — if she even had to try.

The money problem

The three factors for judging a candidate's strength are: the polls, the candidate's political skills and campaign cash. If Trump is flailing in national polls, state polls and favorability polls, and if he's an unprepared boor, at least he can spend his billions, right?

Wrong. Trump would be steamrolled by Clinton's cash juggernaut, even worse than other Republican candidates would be.

Trump hasn't sworn off fundraising. His website and his ads all solicit donations. But he has barely raised any money — $10 million in contributions and $24 million in loans to himself as of the end of March.

Trump also has no experience raising campaign cash. He has alienated the two parts of the Republican Party that do have experience raising money: the establishment-K Street axis and the Tea Party groups. Many businesses already have expressed unwillingness to attach themselves to a Trump nomination.

And Trump probably can't close the gap with his own wealth. Clinton will spend more than a billion dollars in the general election. We don't know Trump's net worth exactly, but we do know the higher estimates all include the value of his name brand, which is not a liquid asset. His buildings, his golf courses and his casinos are not liquid assets, either. Trump probably doesn't have a spare billion in cash to spend.

He lacks the political skills, the likability, the public support and the fundraising ability to beat Hillary Clinton. That's why he won't even come close.


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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Back working the night shift?
121 posted on 04/12/2016 6:25:17 PM PDT by Defiant (The Shills are alive, with the sound of Cruz-ick....)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Hillary’s got two criminal investigations on her tail and 147 full time FBI agents working it; FBI director Comey himself will reportedly question her — a very unusual occurrence.

Donald Trump will have no trouble branding Hillary like a prize dogie.

You recall Mr. Trump is good at branding: Low energy Jeb, little Rubio, lyin’ Ted. The next thing you know, opponents crumble. The brand usually sticks because there’s truth in them. He’s a wizard at it.

Mr. Trump hasn’t begun a general election campaign against Hillary yet. Once we see a direct, side by side comparison on the campaign trail and in debates, Hillary will be left shattered and sputtering. Trump wins.

Right now, however, he’s focusing on Ted Cruz.


122 posted on 04/12/2016 6:26:38 PM PDT by aligncare (Obama and Cruz: both half-term senators-in-a-hurry; both narcissists; both unqualified 2B president)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Agree? Disagree?

Agree.
123 posted on 04/12/2016 6:27:19 PM PDT by j_k_l
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To: tinyowl

“Agree? Disagree?”

“I’m voting for Trump.”

I’m voting for Trump too. AND if the Republicans in my state of Georgia cannot manage to pass a State Religious Freedom Bill within the next year, then @#$% the whole Republican Party forever. I’ll never vote for them again. In fact, I’ll spend the rest of my days bad-mouthing them. Furthermore, I’ll just assume that the country is lost...withdraw from political activism...and spend the remaining days of my life not caring about the slow downward trajectory of the so-called “United States”. My blood pressure will drop, my sleeping habits will improve, and I’ll probably be a much happier person.

The bottom line is this...someone (or some group) needs to put the screws to the present Republican leadership. Trump is best torture device we presently have to do this. All I heard when McCain and Romney were nominated is that we have to nominate them OR Obama will win...no one else can beat Obama...and other such nonsense. Look where that got us. I’m beyond sick of it.

Anyone who quotes to me that “Trump can’t win!” can simply piss off. If he can’t win, then no one can win against the Hildabeast. But ya know....so what?....at least we won’t for any more milksop Republicans; and give them the impression that we ACTUALLY approve of them as candidates.


124 posted on 04/12/2016 6:28:12 PM PDT by Bishop_Malachi (Liberal Socialism - A philosophy which advocates spreading a low standard of living equally.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
It's a humorous problem for you vet.

I believe you once said you worked for the Reagan administration.

According to this article you couldn't have because in the Spring of 1980, he couldn't have won in the same exact way.

125 posted on 04/12/2016 6:30:49 PM PDT by Lakeshark (One time Cruz supporter who now prefers Trump. Yes, there are good reasons.)
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To: fr_freak
He is implying that, since this frontrunner is unelectable, you must vote for the other frontrunner,

There can only be one front-runner. And that is Trump. Cruz trails by over 200 delegates; Trump has won 20 states compared to Cruz's 10 (including CO); and Trump has received 2 million more votes than Cruz. Trump is the front-runner, by far. NY will make it even more emphatic next Tuesday.

126 posted on 04/12/2016 6:31:55 PM PDT by kabar
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
New polls out tonight showing Trump and Hillary in dead heat -- and Trump has not even started on her yet!! I love when he says that!! Anyway, I think people are coming around to Trump in a big way and that we (Trump) are going to win in a landslide!!!
127 posted on 04/12/2016 6:32:05 PM PDT by GizzyGirl
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Sure Trump can win, and I give him a slightly better chance than Cruz.
Trump will and can convincingly stand up to the media onslaught that is sure to come, not by trying to meet their lies with explanations which they will never even acknowledge, but by painting the whole MSM as the lie machine that it is. Trump has called the press liars, and views at home stood up and cheered. He will paint them as simply another arm of a corrupt established order.

Further, he will mount the type of attacks on Hillary that will be required. The way to beat the Clinton’s is to go right after them, and their friends, in a very personal way, in terms that average people understand. Cruz will not. Trump will. This election will not be about policy.


128 posted on 04/12/2016 6:35:29 PM PDT by The Continental Op
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’m voting for #neverHillary... that said, I think Trump will trump her... 1/3 of Bernie people won’t vote for her. She also has no draw anyway... no crowds etc. So she’ll be supported by the party faithful and that’s it. No dem can win with just their own party faithful. I live in a blue state... most of my social media friends are progressives. At least half have said if they do vote in the general, they will write in Bernies name.


129 posted on 04/12/2016 6:35:56 PM PDT by Katya (Homo Nosce Te Ipsum)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Trump is a clown with Trump Towers full of skeletons that the Clinton machine and the media will enjoy dancing out there once he is officially the nomination.

Cruz would fare much worse being that he cannot even beat the reality tv show candidate.
130 posted on 04/12/2016 6:36:18 PM PDT by j_k_l
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Small children recoil at Clinton. Trump will destroy her.
131 posted on 04/12/2016 6:37:11 PM PDT by Vision (Obama is not a well man.)
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To: j_k_l

With Trump’s $2 billion in free television time he’d be the frontrunner.


132 posted on 04/12/2016 6:39:05 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Disagree with prejudice. DT has HDK by at least 40 IQ points and probably more likely 50. Hillary will make George Custer look like the all-time winner in a race against Trump.


133 posted on 04/12/2016 6:40:11 PM PDT by ganeemead
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Cruz certainly can’t win.


134 posted on 04/12/2016 6:41:37 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

McCain and Romney ran loser campaigns, trying not to offend anyone.


135 posted on 04/12/2016 6:43:02 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: dead

And Cruz won’t even win a swing state.


136 posted on 04/12/2016 6:45:56 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: true believer forever; 2ndDivisionVet
"the US Constitution demands that the US President be born in the United States" 2ndDivisionVet July 2009  photo image_zpsfsfp0xj6.jpeg
137 posted on 04/12/2016 6:47:58 PM PDT by bushpilot2
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To: Kenny; tinyowl; JmyBryan; SubMareener; Da Bilge Troll; cba123; Interesting Times; fieldmarshaldj; ..
The bottom line is that last Tuesday, Wisconsin, which is a wholly owned and operated subsidiary of the Democrat Party, had a chance to flip the state to Trump, and put Cruz out of his misery.

According to this article, Trump will lose. Therefore, a Trump victory in Wisconsin would be in the best interests of the Democrat Party.

Oddly, in Wisconsin, a miracle happened:

The counties around Milwaukee, which vote reliably squish (Romney stomped Santorum in 2012, McCain stomped Huckabee in 2008), SUDDENLY got the Social Conservative Fever, and and came out in DROVES for Ted Cruz. At the same time, the Democrat vote count in those same counties tailed off noticeably.

This remarkable occurrence handed Wisconsin to Cruz.

Oddly, Trump scooped up most, if not all of the rest of the counties won by Santorum, the social conservative, in 2012.

The eastern Wisconsin Democrat vote factories were so sure of their strategy that the Dane County Democrat voter turnout proceeded unmolested, and actually INCREASED noticeably over the 2008 dogfight between 0bama and Clinton.

Normally, Dane would be pressed into service to influence the statewide vote.

Why would the Democrats fail to secure their November victory like this? If Cruz loses Wisconsin, he's done - and Trump is on the Democrat menu for the fall...

138 posted on 04/12/2016 6:55:35 PM PDT by kiryandil (.)
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To: fortheDeclaration
And Cruz won’t even win a swing state.

Agree. The GOP has blown yet another winnable election.
139 posted on 04/12/2016 6:57:56 PM PDT by j_k_l
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To: kiryandil

Most excellent. The dems will promote Cruz because they know he will lose.

Very interesting info.


140 posted on 04/12/2016 6:58:51 PM PDT by dforest (Ted took your money and is laughing all the way to Goldman Sachs)
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