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The Uncanny Parallels Between Donald Trump And FDR
the Federalist ^ | January 26, 2016 | Julian Adorney

Posted on 02/29/2016 11:55:17 AM PST by pilgrim

The New Deal’s executor held many positions similar to those of to one Donald J. Trump. ________________________________________________

Imagine a U.S. president who is bombastic, egotistical, and just a little racist. He worries opening the borders will mean an influx of undesirables. He implements capricious executive orders, and seems more concerned with his own power than with the Constitution. He’s often called a fascist by people who know what the term means.

No, I’m not talking about Donald Trump. I’m talking about Franklin Delano Roosevelt.

Debate raged last December about whether President Trump would be a fascist. Steve Horwitz and Martin O’Malley, among others, claimed he would be. Not so fast, said Megan McArdle at Bloomberg View. A fascist president could never take power in America, McArdle argues, because, among other things, “America has neither the weak institutions nor the revolutionary organizations necessary for a Trump Reich to fester.”

But that’s not quite true. FDR may not have been Hitler or Mussolini. But the difference was one of degree, not of kind. And now Trump is following in his footsteps. Suspicious of Americans, Immigrants, and Refugees

FDR spied on political dissidents in the name of national security. In May 1940, he warned of a “fifth column” in America (a military term for civilian rebels), and claimed refugees might be enemy agents.

In “FDR Goes to War,” noted historians Burton and Anita Folsom tell the story of how FDR used the Internal Revenue Service, Federal Bureau of Investigation, and attorney general to go after his political enemies. He wiretapped phones, ordered tax audits of dissidents, and created a personal spy group to collect incriminating information about political rivals.

All of this was before FDR rounded up almost 122,000 Japanese-Americans and forced them into internment camps. While national security concerns were cited, FDR also considered Asians biologically untrustworthy.

FDR was also hostile towards refugees. When Jews sought to escape from Nazi Germany, FDR barred the gates. The State Department cut refugee immigration by 75 percent by imposing burdensome regulations. FDR defended his actions on the grounds that “among the refugees there are some spies….” But as with the internment camps, a darker motive also played in: FDR was an anti-Semite who waved away pleas to let in Jewish refugees as “Jewish wailing.”

This isn’t to suggest that all opposition to immigration is fascist. Many reasonable Americans favor immigration restrictions. But FDR’s immigration ideas, summed up in his claim that immigrants ought to have “blood of the right sort,” were clearly prejudicial. So is Trump’s rhetoric about Mexicans. The New Deal’s Not So Different from Fascism

Economically too, FDR’s ideology closely resembled the fascist policies of Mussolini’s Italy. With the creation of the National Recovery Association (NRA), FDR set up a system that pushed each industry into a cartel that cooperated with the federal government to set wages, prices, and “fair practices.” One NRA report even stated directly, “The Fascist Principles are very similar to those we have been evolving here in America.”

This similarity was not accidental. Rexford Tugwell, one of the architects of the New Deal, wrote that Mussolini had done “many of the things which seem to me necessary.”

Roosevelt said he was “deeply impressed by what [Mussolini] has accomplished.” Mussolini returned the favor in his review of FDR’s 1933 book “Looking Forward,” noting that, “Reminiscent of Fascism is (FDR’s) principle that the state no longer leaves the economy to its own devices.”

Like Trump, FDR had little respect for the separation of powers. When he tried to pass a 99.5 percent marginal tax rate on income above $100,000, Congress rebuffed him. So he issued an executive order mandating a 100 percent marginal tax rate, and lowered the ceiling to incomes of $25,000 per year (which Congress later rescinded). His attempt to do a similar end-run around the Supreme Court, the court-packing scheme, is infamous.

Paul Warburg, one of FDR’s first-term advisors, claimed, “I believe that Mr. Roosevelt is so charmed with the fun of brandishing the band leader’s baton at the head of the parade, so pleased with the picture he sees of himself, that he is no longer capable of recognizing that the human power to lead is limited.” FDR saw himself as a benevolent dictator, and his actions reflect that grandiosity. Trump has made a campaign of this same sort of grandiosity.

It’s true that FDR didn’t take total power in the United States, and that U.S. institutions prevented him from doing so. The Supreme Court struck down his ideas, especially before 1937. When he tried to pack the court with allies, the public rallied against him. Congress also refused to pass certain laws on his agenda. The Dictatorial Type Keeps Resurfacing

But FDR was both powerful and destructive. He was not Mussolini, but he ran roughshod over the rule of law, and dramatically transformed American politics—which should serve as an example of what a Trump presidency might look like.

In fact, a Trump presidency could be even more dangerous, because the powers of the presidency have expanded. The White House can place citizens on terrorist watch lists—spying on them and preventing them from flying. The president can order U.S. citizens who are abroad, like Anwar Al-Awlaki, to be assassinated without a trial. The National Security Agency allows the president to spy on political dissidents such as Faisal Gill (a Muslim Republican) and Nihad Awab (director of a Muslim civil rights organization), or even to wiretap news outlets like the Associated Press.

This doesn’t mean a Trump presidency would lead to brown shirts on the street. But there is more to fascism than goose-stepping and military style uniforms, and Trump, like FDR, displays many such characteristics. So when people look at Trump’s agenda and claim “it can’t happen here,” they’re ignoring history that’s not even a century old. Not only could such things happen, they already have.

The only sure way to guard against Trump is to roll back the enormous power of the government that he would be managing. History, even in the United States, shows that dangerous men dupe voters and take power. We should shrink government so that when they’re elected, they take as little power as possible.

Julian Adorney is a Young Voices Advocate. He has written for FEE, Townhall, The Hill, and Lawrence Read’s latest book “Excuse Me, Professor.”


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To: pilgrim
The only sure way to guard against Trump is to roll back the enormous power of the government that he would be managing. History, even in the United States, shows that dangerous men dupe voters and take power. We should shrink government so that when they’re elected, they take as little power as possible.

Substitute Clinton, or Sanders, or Cruz, or whoever you've decided is unacceptable ... it reads the same way. Fedzilla has grown so far beyond Constitutional bounds as to make the Presidency itself a threat to the Republic.

61 posted on 02/29/2016 1:08:34 PM PST by NorthMountain (A plague o' both your houses.)
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To: goodwithagun

LOL!!! Thought that could be ‘snuck’ in with notice!!!

Yes it does!!!

Thanks for the reply, was getting ‘kinda’ lonesome or probably should say ostracized or blackballed(?).

Take care.........pilgrim


62 posted on 02/29/2016 1:08:46 PM PST by pilgrim
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To: Phinneous

Too late-—people who are informed know about the Roger Ailes/Rubio/etc successful effort to “turn” Levin and other talk show hosts, so you can’t believe what he says. He’s been co-opted, like Fox News etc. I, too, was sad to see it. But seriously, you need to keep up with information better before you give opinions that have become moot.


63 posted on 02/29/2016 1:09:47 PM PST by gg188 (Ted Cruz, R - Goldman Sachs)
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To: goodwithagun
I’ve been thinking the same thing. I don’t remember it being this nasty in ‘08 and ‘12. The noobs are something else and the FReepers with old sign on dates yet dead posting histories are pretty annoying also. FR has evolved the past few months. I hope the noobs and the long forgottens can keep this place financially situated, because I’m sure rethinking that angle.

I'm seeing some pretty wide swaths being scorched and salted.

64 posted on 02/29/2016 1:12:43 PM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: don-o

I mostly stay away so I won’t get too angry to vote for Trump if he is the nominee. The level of venom is toxic.
I am a Cruz supporter.

I post on other threads and help with the FReepathon.

Take a break but don’t leave.


65 posted on 02/29/2016 1:12:55 PM PST by MEG33 (God Bless America And Our Troops)
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To: gg188

Co-opted my tuchas.


66 posted on 02/29/2016 1:13:52 PM PST by Phinneous (She-yibaneh beis hamikdash bi-m'heirah v'yameinu v'sein chelkeinu b'sorahsecha.)
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To: NorthMountain

Fedzilla NEEDS TO BE NEUTERED!!!!! (cfeo)

The bureaucratic system will have to be reduced it the Republic survives!! jmho

Unacceptable or not whoever is our next President needs to start cutting.

Trump or Cruz, neither is unacceptable to me. Do have “druthers”.

Thanks for a rational response to the article!!!!

It is appreciated and understand the others, but they do not fit the authors similarities to FDR as does the one he mentions. jmho


67 posted on 02/29/2016 1:19:24 PM PST by pilgrim
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To: DoughtyOne
Folks, what can I do to get through to you?

I am a lost cause. I actually listen to Trump's words. Even more instructive are the extended direct quotes that make it into print.

George Wallace was the best I ever heard at this. But, he at least had a coherent set of principles. Trump is pure emoting and wild promises and is constantly backtracking and spinning his own statements.

No sale. No way.

68 posted on 02/29/2016 1:21:21 PM PST by don-o (He will not share His glory. And He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the Name of the Lord forever!)
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To: don-o

You’re not a lost cause. You see it how you see it.

There’s one example that might make it clear to you what is going on.

Trump donated hundreds of thousands to Democrats.

Trump donated hundreds of thousands to Republicans.

His donations to Republicans didn’t make him anything.

His donations to Democrats made him a Democrat.

That’s about the only thing a person needs to study to grasp what is going on with the Cruz folks.


69 posted on 02/29/2016 1:26:20 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Facing Trump nomination inevitability, folks are now openly trying to help Hillary destroy him.)
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To: pilgrim
Fedzilla NEEDS TO BE NEUTERED!!!!!

Yes. Regardless of who is running for president, or what I might think of him/her/it. The size, scope, and power of the government in general and the President in particular need to be drastically reduced. Even if I 100% supported "Candidate X", the power would be far too great for me to trust him.

70 posted on 02/29/2016 1:27:45 PM PST by NorthMountain (A plague o' both your houses.)
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To: CTrent1564

LOL!!!

Remember the day when they found out things got REAL TENSE for awhile. Needless to say we did not prolong our visit!

Voted as your Father did and changed my registration after that.

Democrats used to be pro-family, at least thought they did and remember hearing Hubert Humphrey’s speech re: family. Did not really like him, but liked his stand.

They left (to the left) and now gOOPse is leaving me
(also to the left)! GRRRRRRRR!!!! LOL!! (cfeo)

Take care.........pilgrim


71 posted on 02/29/2016 1:29:27 PM PST by pilgrim
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To: DoughtyOne

Thanks for that response!!

It is appreciated!!!!!


72 posted on 02/29/2016 1:31:35 PM PST by pilgrim
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To: pilgrim; DoughtyOne

Bigotry and racism are basically the same. There is no evidence Trump is either. He’s vilified Obama on not improving the lives of blacks in 7 years. He’s had a black man on stage talking about the murder of the black man’s son by an illegal immigrant. He’s had two black woman youtube personalities on stage.

Torture - sorry, waterboarding terrorist, who are not part of the Geneva convention is a non-issue to me. Better them than us.

Vulgarity? I’ve heard him say sh**. Don’t remember the F bomb during campaigning but haven’t heard every rally. My father said worse things and so have I.


73 posted on 02/29/2016 1:34:55 PM PST by Jay Thomas (If not for my faith in Christ, I would despair.)
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To: NorthMountain

Do you see a day where it will be reduced in any meaningful way?

Personally, without some sort or violent upheaval do not see in the future.

Pray and hope it happens, but not optimistic.

And dislike to say there is no 100% support for ANY candidate, wish I could be as ‘enthusiastic’ as some here.


74 posted on 02/29/2016 1:38:17 PM PST by pilgrim
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To: pilgrim
You previously wrote: Unacceptable or not whoever is our next President needs to start cutting.

Will Cruz do that? Will Rubio do that? Will Trump do that?

It's for certain that Sanders or Hildebeeste will simply grow government even larger.

Do you see a day where it will be reduced in any meaningful way?

Yes. When the federal debt becomes unserviceable, and attempts to service it collapse the economy. It will end in blood and fire.

At least, that's what I think when I'm feeling optimistic.

75 posted on 02/29/2016 1:42:51 PM PST by NorthMountain (A plague o' both your houses.)
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To: pilgrim

Thank you.

I appreciate the comments.


76 posted on 02/29/2016 1:43:10 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Facing Trump nomination inevitability, folks are now openly trying to help Hillary destroy him.)
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To: DoughtyOne
If not a lost cause, I'll be a bitter clinger; clinging to my principles and trusting the light I have, such as it is. I've ignored both in the past, but I am too close to the end to do it again. Makes it easier to look in the mirror and lay me down at night, though. fwiw - Trump being a Dem / Rep is of no interest to me. He is a crony capitalist who brags on buying off politicians. He says he is pro life, but seems to base THAT on outcomes, rather than the intrinsic value of human life.

And since you are a fan of spamming, I will repeat what I have posted several times on this matter

When the Daily Caller's Jamie Weinstein asked Trump if he would have become pro-life if that child had been a loser instead of a "total superstar," Trump replied: "Probably not, but I've never thought of it.

…the “never thought about it” is just as damning as the aborting of the “loser” child.

77 posted on 02/29/2016 1:43:12 PM PST by don-o (He will not share His glory. And He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the Name of the Lord forever!)
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To: Jay Thomas

I agree with your comments.


78 posted on 02/29/2016 1:44:22 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Facing Trump nomination inevitability, folks are now openly trying to help Hillary destroy him.)
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To: pilgrim

The article could have been better. I have been reading James MacGregor Burns” biography on FDR.

One thing that I can see that Trump and FDR have in common is that FDR when he ran in 1932 had few specifics and was certainly not tied to any Ideology or Philosophy, and never really was.

But it was a different time and The Depression was in full swing.


79 posted on 02/29/2016 1:49:18 PM PST by Captain Peter Blood
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To: Jay Thomas
Bigotry and racism are basically the same.

Not sure where you are coming from with this.

Do not recall where Trump was called racist. Think the author said that in implication of FDR, I, personally doubt, from his past actions and words that he is. I do not think he is a bigot.

Vulgarity is a debatable?
80 posted on 02/29/2016 1:51:58 PM PST by pilgrim
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