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1 posted on 02/19/2016 9:43:05 PM PST by Washi
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GoSo we let the team down by picking someone else rather then going with the standard issue professional ivy league lawyer politician who said all the right things in his speeches.

How about we don’t repeat the pattern of the last 30 years and try a different solution in 2016?


128 posted on 02/19/2016 10:48:27 PM PST by MNJohnnie ( Tyranny, like Hell, is not easily conquered)
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162 posted on 02/19/2016 11:10:17 PM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not A Matter of Opinion)
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Listening to the media mind controllers, will create this defeatist attitude. People with... minds, can make them up without the help of the invested power brokers— and that includes the so-called “un-influencable” trump (which is ludicrous on the face of hit— he is his own lobbyist and won’t listen to anyone else— meaning the people of this country who do all the work, not the elite mega property owners). Not one of us regular folks. Reagan actually was- and he actually had well thought out conservative beliefs and values. Use you mind— critical thinking. But, it is true that the fry-cooks luv them some trump simpletonism.


183 posted on 02/19/2016 11:29:51 PM PST by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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Votes have not been counted yet - I am still hopeful.
Right now there is no way I could ever vote Trump. Will do a write in. Would as soon vote for Pee Wee Herman. DT is too much like Hill.


188 posted on 02/19/2016 11:34:53 PM PST by libbylu (Cruz: The truth with a smile.)
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Man we have to break the back of the system. I hope that Cruz and Trump may make nice and maybe if we are lucky Cruz will get a VP slot. Where I think some blew it is by falling in the same old trap that is so easy to fall into which is the idea that electing a pure Charlie Brown conservative that tirelessly runs at Liberal Lucy’s ball will win. The problem I see is even when Reagan won landslides he still lost in key areas that have nearly undone all he did that was great. His amnesty totally transformed California and was like a big America’s borders are open welcome mat which was only made worse by stacked trade agreements. I don’t even want to have to go into GW Bush’s failures and I wouldn’t change my vote for him at all.

The reason I’m going to cast my ballot for Trump in Virginia tomorrow and not Cruz is because I see promise that Trump can finally break the machine, he can totally destroy the lefts biggest weapon which is control over the language and temperament and that is more of an obstacle than Democrats by themselves. Trump has proven he can change the rules of the game and win. No he isn’t going to be perfect but I think he is genuine on the things that count. I don’t see him betraying us on Abortion, Trade, 2nd amd, Health Care, or Immigration. No candidate not even Cruz is going to be perfect on all these things but I’m betting Trump will have more of a mandate and I’m certain he will use his power to Make America Great Again whether Washington DC likes it or not. We could’ve had a guaranteed ticket of Trump and Cruz but now its in doubt because some of us got too narrow minded and forgot who the real enemy is. Its not just Democrats. Its the msm, its the political status quo, its an effete politically correct mindset that puts our candidates in strait-jackets so that many of them end up behaving as if they are ashamed of what they claim to believe and are afraid of their own shadows. I’ll be happy tomorrow if Trump or Cruz win. I don’t hate either of them and both have disappointed me in the way they’ve dealt with each other but I choose Trump because he wont walk softly and he will use the biggest stick and go to Washington DC swinging it like hes shooting Ducks in a barrel. Payback is a Trump.


192 posted on 02/19/2016 11:46:41 PM PST by Maelstorm (America wasn't founded with the battle cry "Give me Liberty or cut me a government check!".)
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Well said. I cannot believe how many people have decided that Trump’s words don’t matter, his character doesn’t matter, his contradictions don’t matter, his previous positions don’t matter, his history of donations doesn’t matter, his betrayal of spouses and business partners doesn’t’ matter, his hubris doesn’t matter, his ignorance of government and foreign policy doesn’t matter, his mean-spirited approach to non believers in him doesn’t matter, his megalomania doesn’t matter, his liberalism doesn’t matter (youthful indiscretion, after all, he was only 65 then), and his disdain for his own putative party doesn’t matter.


201 posted on 02/20/2016 12:07:52 AM PST by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution. Go Cruz.)
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But we’re about to blow it.


Really? Wow gone from Washi Accords to full out must vote for Cruz or we have blown it...amazig what a campaign can do.

Sorry, I just don’t see it that way. I have had problems with Cruz and his positions long before primary season got in to full swing. Biggest one is his stand on H-1B Visas and immigration. I don’t consider it “blowing it” to vote for Trump.

I am very concerned about Defense, Terrorism, and Immigration, Vet affairs, Common Core and Balance of Trade—just to name a few. I think Trump is stronger and MORE CONSERVATIVE. These topics would not even be discussed if it were not for Trump, so I am grateful and as a conservataive, I don’t think I am blowing it.

Also, for a Born Again Christian, Ted Cruz sure dances close to the line if down right does not cross it regarding his version of truth—yeah, as a born again Christian, I hold those who claim to be Born Again and whose dad claims son is ordained to be Pres (Won’t even get into this. ) to a much higher standard than other candidates. Don’t need to cheat and play loose with facts and send out sketchy flyers if God wants you to be President. You pray and tell the truth. Period.

Frankly, I have not seen any flyers go out from Trump that are questionable (tho I actually received one from Cruz). Carson did not accuse Trump of changing the outcome of the election.

So I guess the accords are broken, but I don’t feel like I am blowing it...


203 posted on 02/20/2016 12:12:07 AM PST by Freedom56v2
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But, Trump is also practicing a scorched Earth campaign of character assassination against Cruz

Cruz assassinated his own character.

206 posted on 02/20/2016 12:17:57 AM PST by jpsb (Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied. Otto von Bismark)
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It’s not over until the fat lady sings.


208 posted on 02/20/2016 12:22:06 AM PST by Politicalkiddo ("If we would learn what the human race..is at bottom, we need only observe it in election time"-M.T.)
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I will not vote for a progressive, no matter the party. Not Trumbama, Sanders, clinton. The constitution party looks good.


210 posted on 02/20/2016 12:24:12 AM PST by exnavy (good gun control: two hands, one shot, one kill.)
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I’m not one of the people calling Cruz a liar or shady. I think he’s a true conservative, articulate and trustworthy. But seriously? The second coming of RR? No way. I remember a few years back hearing good things about Ted Cruz from Rush and I couldn’t wait to see who this conservative hopeful was. When I finally saw him being interviewed my reaction was utter disappointment because I found him totally unappealing. I wish it weren’t so, but he simply does not capture hearts the way Reagan did. At least, not mine. I have nothing against him, I don’t doubt his integrity or conservative credentials. But you have to understand that for the many of us who can’t seem to acquire a taste for Ted Cruz, it’s kind of hard to imagine him getting anywhere in the general, and it’s wrong to expect everyone to feel something we don’t feel. And it’s a little insulting and presumptuous to treat us like were fools for passing up this big chance for another RR. He is NOT anything like RR. I truly wish he was. Of course I’ll vote for him if he is the nominee.


212 posted on 02/20/2016 12:28:30 AM PST by enumerated
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"On the republican side, we have a solidly conservative, well spoken, highly informed candidate that isn't afraid to stand up to the GOPe and fight for conservative causes. "

I think you've got it wrong ... as to why people support Trump. And it goes directly to what you say above, perhaps it's the crux of the divide.

You think what's above is enough. That is, you are saying 'yay for my candidate, he IS all these great things'. But those things, in fact, get you nothing on their own. Who CARES if he's willing to stand up? Of course it's important, but it gets you nothing.

I think most of us who support Trump agree that Ted is all those things.

But we - at least I - make a bet -> no matter how much of a conservative super hero Cruz is, in 8 years, he will not have changed what needs to be changed.

On the other hand, I think you're also wrong about why we support Trump. Trump is not our middle finger. It's true that we're pissed, just like everyone else. But if you'r pissed, you can just as well vote for Cruz - if anything Cruz is more of a repudiation of both the Dems and the ERepublicans.

But my pissed off response is not to say FU with my candidate.

My pissed off response is obliterate what's pissing me off. Leaving me without the problem, and in doing so, sometimes you give up the right to be right.

We do not think Cruz can end the problem because we don't think the country will move with him or follow him. Pure conservatives without a baseball bat have failed. Correct understanding of cancer does not cure cancer. Eventually you need to take out a knife and use some pretty bad chemicals, and while even still it's risky, it's more effective than standing there diagnosing the cancer over and over, proclaiming how a healthy body should function, and then pleading with the cancer to fall in line with what you've just proclaimed.

It's true, Trump is sharp and stinky ... like a knife and chemicals.

Who thus far has been more effective in building the wall against one version of cancer? Who has been more effective in moving the country toward banning another? Though I'm not for overly protectionist trade policies, who has been most effective so far in keeping the good cells in?

I don't need to disparage Ted to support the candidacy of Trump slightly over his. Mere intellect, credentials and even commitment to curing cancer amount to nothing. You need to start eliminating it faster than it's metastasizing. Right now, while I think Ted would be effective, I don't think he stands a chance at eliminating the cancer faster than it's spreading. We might lose a limb under Trump, but limbs can be regrown, and I think that's why you see us accepting a little more BS from Trump than we would in any other candidate in any other time. The doctor has bad breath, and he might be a little sloppy with that scalpel, but seriously - have you seen the condition of the patient?

Ted will do everything right, and the patient will die. Trump will be a slight nightmare, we'll lose our hair and puke a lot, but maybe we're at least around to curse the doctor in a couple years. Dead men don't praise.

213 posted on 02/20/2016 12:30:55 AM PST by tinyowl (A equals A)
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I’m taking names and if Trump wins the primaries and loses to Sanders, I’m going to say to every one of them, I TOLD YOU SO. YOV’VE TANKED THIS COUNTRY FOR GOOD.


220 posted on 02/20/2016 3:37:32 AM PST by lucky american (Progressives are attacking our rights and y'all will sit there and take it.)
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It isn't the conservative part, it is the candidate.

Cruz is not a likable person. It is in the eyes.

He is even more abhorrent when he goes negative.

223 posted on 02/20/2016 4:20:54 AM PST by dforest
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But this is a time for thinking, not feeling.

You'll have a hard time convincing a lot of people on FR that is true. I've been here a long time, and I've never seen such mindless hatred and emotion regarding candidates.

I'm an 80/20 guy regarding conservatism: If a candidate satisfies 80% of my issues I can vote for him, understanding that some issues are weighted more heavily. Right now we need to elect a Republican. For me, the only issue that disqualifies any of the current candidates is immigration and the associated rule of law in INS matters.

226 posted on 02/20/2016 5:02:54 AM PST by Senator_Blutarski
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I'm for Cruz, but if Trump had not jumped into the race, Cruz would have been a footnote already, crushed by the GOPe machine and the primary target of the MSM's 24/7 smearbots.

All credit goes to Trump for making himself a bigger target and taking a lot of the flack, and especially for rendering jeb as the footnote in this years election.

Cruz is still viable, and I hope he comes out of SC and NV as the clear front runner. But I will get behind whomever the clear front runner is, if there is a clear frontrunner in the next week or so.

230 posted on 02/20/2016 5:11:10 AM PST by Sirius Lee (Cruz or Lose 2016)
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Romney was a squish and got his ass handed to him in Obama's second term.

The main reason that Obama got his second term was that lots of voters didn't vote because Romney wasn't conservative enough (lots of folks on this website). The right needs to do what the RATS have done for decades - vote party on election day REGARDLESS of how you feel about the candidate. A republican lite is better than any democrat. IMHO, if you didn't vote you can't bitch about the results.

236 posted on 02/20/2016 5:59:33 AM PST by Cyclone59 (Where are we going, and what's with the handbasket?)
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“But we’re about to blow it.”

No, we aren’t about to blow it. What is accomplished if (and it’s far from assured) Trump gets the nomination is that the GOP “pick the squish” apparatus will have been destroyed.

If you play the long game, get a Constitutionalist as Trumps running mate.

“conservatives” (whatever that means politically anymore) have been unable to overcome the GOP establishment for 20 years. It’s just a fact, and a sad one at that.

Trump is on the cusp of doing it (but again, it’s far from assured - there are plenty of GOPe tricks to be played).

That was ALWAYS a prerequisite for returning sanity to our federal government - the destruction of the “squish” GOP.

The wrecking ball precedes the rebuilding.


237 posted on 02/20/2016 6:00:32 AM PST by RFEngineer
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Unfortunately, the Republican nomination process has turned into a massive circular firing squad. They aren’t trying to run against the real enemy—the leftist Democrats—but are shooting at their own.

No matter who wins, he may be fatally wounded for the general election from all the sniping back and forth.

And this may be the last election where Americans can prevent the transformation of our country into another hopeless leftist basket case. They really do want to turn us into Sweden.


240 posted on 02/20/2016 6:49:26 AM PST by wildbill (If you check behind the shower curtain fInor a murder, and find one.... what's your plan?)
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I initially liked Ted cruz.
Then, Trump released his platform. I liked both Trump and Cruz. Heck, I thought Trump could be the “rodeo clown” and soak up all the crap from the GOPe, allowing Cruz to draft behind unscathed.

But, creepy lying Cruz revealed himself as a dishonest person. Someone who struggled to pay off his student loans, yet congered up 1.2 million to fund his campaign.
Cruz cannot be honest about his Canada citizenship!!!
Cruz needs to leave the race before his does real damage to the constitution.


244 posted on 02/20/2016 7:15:28 AM PST by Steven Tyler
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