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There is no point in arguing with people who cling even to benign conspiracy theories. If you believe Paul McCartney is dead or the earth is flat, there is no amount of evidence I can provide that will convince you otherwise. It’s an even greater waste of time arguing with twisted people who pretend to believe the Holocaust never happened, when their real complaint is that its death toll wasn’t big enough for them.

No one this side of Donte Stallworth has ever changed their mind about 9/11 trutherism.

Finally, people occasionally make the following argument: Yes, the cheese has slipped off the 9/11 truthers’ crackers, but has their impact really been as destructive as, say, some of the overblown theories about Saddam Hussein leading up to the Iraq war?

My response: might the Iraq war debate have been less one-sided a dozen years ago if the people who were arguing with the accredited intelligence agencies asserting the existence of weapons of mass destruction had been less associated with ANSWER commies and 9/11 deniers?

1 posted on 02/15/2016 5:36:10 PM PST by jessduntno
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To: jessduntno

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2 posted on 02/15/2016 5:45:07 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (TED CRUZ 2016)
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To: jessduntno
Your essay makes the point that Truthers may be more dangerous than we might otherwise think, but not necessarily dumber.

Whatever their claims are, this essay hasn't made them appear less likely.

If we had had a thorough open discussion about 9/11 and the public had been made known of more information earlier, then there is a small chance we wouldn't have gone on to create the abomination referred to as the DHS.

To the extent that Truthers caused the DHS to happen, they are a deplorable lot, but their arguments are as valid (or invalid) today as they were yesterday.

3 posted on 02/15/2016 5:46:20 PM PST by who_would_fardels_bear
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I agree, except the part about the earth not being flat, I mean come on, if the earth where spherical why are maps flat? ;-))
4 posted on 02/15/2016 5:46:27 PM PST by svcw (An armed man is a citizen, an unarmed man is a subject)
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I’m not a mainline 9/11 truther but there are things that would be worth investigating further.

However, this article actually reveals something totally unintended, namely the complete lack of ability of liberals to reason.

Once again, we see a tedious collection of non-sequiturs dressed up as logic. “If you are a 9/11 truther, then you will no doubt believe the moon landings were a hoax ... and that Paul McCartney died.”

Really? Why, how many people think the moon landings were a hoax, maybe one in a thousand? And that Paul McCartney died ... does anyone believe that?

But what is the logical connection? There is none. Many people who like to pooh-pooh the 9/11 truthers and birthers might then turn around and say that they know for a fact that the Bush administration knew there were no WMD’s in Iraq, or that Christian militias are the biggest threat to American freedom ... their conspiracy theories are just as bad if not worse than anything Alex Jones could dream up.

Also rather glaring was the statement that it might prompt people to demand greater clarity from government as in declassification of more of the 9/11 reports. Why is any of it being withheld? At this point in time, who could possibly benefit from this information, other than the voters and the citizens?


5 posted on 02/15/2016 5:46:32 PM PST by Peter ODonnell (Don and Teddy in a tree, F-I-G-H-T-IN-G)
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To: jessduntno

9/11 was not an inside job. But Bin Laden had lots of help from the House of Saud. (Or the argument goes. An easy one to make, btw.)


7 posted on 02/15/2016 5:50:50 PM PST by datura (Proud Infidel)
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To: jessduntno

They couldn’t possibly any dumber than I think they are. I also think they are vile.


9 posted on 02/15/2016 5:53:09 PM PST by beandog (TrumperTantrum)
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To: jessduntno

They couldn’t possibly any dumber than I think they are. I also think they are vile.


10 posted on 02/15/2016 5:53:09 PM PST by beandog (TrumperTantrum)
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To: jessduntno

Truthers are nutty. Governments never lie to their citizens about anything. Especially about major incidents that lead to military action.


12 posted on 02/15/2016 6:00:01 PM PST by Ultima
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To: jessduntno

We were told that the jet fuel was the major cause of bringing down the two World Trade Center towers. In your opinion, is this plausible? Building Seven also fell despite not being struck. Why?


13 posted on 02/15/2016 6:01:10 PM PST by Uncle Sham
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To: jessduntno

I know one thing for sure in this world.

The American government lies 100% of the time about every, single thing.


14 posted on 02/15/2016 6:01:42 PM PST by chris37 (heartless)
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To: jessduntno

If you are saying that Trump is a nut who sounds like Rosie O’Donnell with his goofy conspiracy theories, who can disagree?


15 posted on 02/15/2016 6:02:50 PM PST by alstewartfan ("I came back as a large hippopotamus." Al Stewart)
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To: jessduntno

Which 9/11 truther theory is the author trying to criticize - not clear to me. There are at least 6 main strains of 9/11 “truthers”.

Lost in the crazy talk are some folks asking very good questions - especially about the Pentagon crash.


16 posted on 02/15/2016 6:04:20 PM PST by mad_as_he$$
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When you meet up with 911 truthers, I find that ridicule works best. They simply cannot conceive that 1500 degree flames sill reduce the strength of steel by 80%.


17 posted on 02/15/2016 6:07:25 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Liberals are the Taliban of America, trying to tear down any symbol that they don't like.)
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To: jessduntno

If you want to read something that may change your mind about 9/11, or at least give you serious doubts about the official story, read Rebekah Roth’s “Methodical Illusion” and “Methodical Deception”.

She was a 30 year flight attendant and later a pursor on international flights (Sr Flight Attendant). She retired shortly after 9/11 and spent over a year looking into details that the media missed. Read the book, then tell me “truthers” are wrong.

http://www.amazon.com/Methodical-Illusion-Rebekah-Roth/dp/0982757131/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1455590032&sr=8-3&keywords=rebekah+roth


23 posted on 02/15/2016 6:34:00 PM PST by Vic S
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"9/11 Truthers Are Even Dumber Than You Think"

No they aren't.

34 posted on 02/16/2016 4:05:35 PM PST by mlo
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To: jessduntno

Jamie Gorlick memo. Done.


37 posted on 02/16/2016 4:08:00 PM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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And the dumbest people of all are those who rabidly cling to the idea that conspiracies don’t happen. History is replete with the conspiracies of those who have usurped power often by murder or other means. Believing that intelligent but evil people who know few moral bounds won’t do whatever it takes to become powerful is just plain ridiculous. It allows those who believe such naivety to become blind sitting ducks. I often wonder if those who are so dead set against considering or investigating possible conspiracy are those who are really dumbing down the masses so as to help take them over. They mock anyone who will honestly investigate suspicious situation marginalizing them. Pretty soon none will dare speak up or risk being considered totally mindless and gullible. It is the people who refuse to consider any kind of conspiracy that are the ones who are easily taken.

I don’t prescribe to all conspiracy beliefs. I know that some will see conspiracies behind every rock. That doesn’t mean that an intelligent search for facts shouldn’t take place by those who care about truth and recognize the fact that there are factions, in fact very large factions of people who work diabolically towards their goals of taking over the population by whatever means they possibly can think of, good or evil. They can prosper when people are blind to them and refuse to recognize their existence. In the fertile ground of denial their ranks grow and they take great pleasure in our stupidity.


50 posted on 02/16/2016 5:57:44 PM PST by Bellflower (It's not that there isn't any evidence of God, it's that everything is evidence of God.)
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To: jessduntno

The only thing more heinous than a Truther is a Newther


67 posted on 02/17/2016 6:41:22 PM PST by AppyPappy (If you really want to irritate someone, point out something obvious they are trying hard to ignore.)
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