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To: dp0622; Lurker; MileHi; hiredhand

Map reading, land navigation, use of GPS, compass, the stars, sextant, the sun etc when used properly or alone will get ya home. I carry two, compasses and two gps devices as well as topographical maps and satellite images of the area traveled when in remote regions 4 wheeling or hunting.

Urban ...yes as you say, simple smartphone swarmed with cell tower data points works well, augmented with artificial waypoints I like to call street signs and addresses.....:o)

Remote regions, wilderness ..... whole different ball game. Map reading is a skill and very reliable.

Lifelong experiences from scouting to military land nav, SERE, geocaching, hashing and outdoor hobbies taught me to double or triple check with all the tools an knowledge at my disposal when / if time allowed.

Sad story here.....


77 posted on 02/11/2016 11:50:23 PM PST by Squantos ( Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet ...)
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To: Squantos

sounds like you’ve had an interesting life. cool :)


84 posted on 02/12/2016 2:54:38 AM PST by dp0622
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To: Squantos

bttt


86 posted on 02/12/2016 3:00:58 AM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a Simple Manner for a Happy Life :o)
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To: Squantos
What you said....A+++

Two different implementations of GPS.

Vehicle navigation systems are only as good as OEM updates of roadway systems. In my dense suburban county new developments are constantly in construction. New roads are built, some old ones get dead ended. The algorithms aren't and can't be 100% accurate 100% of the time. Just as with nautical and air charts one must update street maps and even then it has certain holes. Like spellczech it requires some basic user knowledge.

The handhelds give excellent positional info regardless of roads. Lots of goodies available, waypoint memory, altitude, compass bearing, quad sheet info, etc.

Makes moving about easier, works best as you said in conjunction with paper maps. The old magnetic compasses work only if one knows how to use them.

In any case I use maps before setting out into unknown areas.... there be dragons out there.....

;>)

Boy Scouts provided excellent training. Our Marine scout leader taught us to sketch up our own maps, how to pick landmarks, indicate terrain features, rough elevation guesses, etc, driving the points home with his Korean war experience

101 posted on 02/12/2016 4:25:37 AM PST by Covenantor (Men are ruled..e.by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern - Chesterton)
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To: Squantos

We love geocaching. What a great little hobby.

L


102 posted on 02/12/2016 4:25:59 AM PST by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: Squantos

It’s a very sad story indeed. :-( I’ve noticed that vehicle type GPS units are sorely lacking. As you know, I’m on a search team and we use the ones that actually give you USEFUL information... such as WHERE YOU ARE AT!!! ...in both Lat/Lon, and UTM. Vehicle GPS units simply show you a picture of the road and tell you where you’re going and people trust it!...and DIE because of it. But even people like us who end up out in the middle of nowhere looking for a lost person don’t entirely rely on GPS. We DO indeed have MAPS and GOOD compasses!... plus, we KNOW how to find Polaris (on a clear night). Land navigation is a good skill to have. :-)


108 posted on 02/12/2016 5:22:23 AM PST by hiredhand
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To: Squantos
Sad story here.....

No kidding.

117 posted on 02/12/2016 6:31:37 AM PST by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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To: Squantos

I, on the other hand, get totally lost trying to get to my bathroom.

I now just poop in the bed. I figure I’ll clean it up later. Or not.


119 posted on 02/12/2016 6:48:38 AM PST by Lazamataz (I'm an Islamophobe??? Well, good. When it comes to Islam, there's plenty to Phobe about.)
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