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Chrysler gear shifters confuse drivers causing crashes, injuries
Globe and Mail ^ | Feb. 8, 2016 | AP

Posted on 02/08/2016 5:22:46 PM PST by rickmichaels

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To: nascarnation

I think the only one I haven’t driven is a 6 speed standard shift but its just one more gear.

I had an F150 with 3 on the tree, a Saab with 4 on the tree, a half dozen 3 and 4 speeds on the floor, my last F150 had a 5 speed on the floor.


21 posted on 02/08/2016 5:36:11 PM PST by cripplecreek (Pride goes before destruction, and a haughty spirit before a fall.)
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To: svcw

Information is your friend.


22 posted on 02/08/2016 5:36:13 PM PST by Farmer Dean
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To: rickmichaels

My Acura has the shifter on the console, Mercedes has it in the steering wheel. After driving the Mercedes for a while then getting in the Acura I turn on the wipers trying to shift, duh.


23 posted on 02/08/2016 5:37:17 PM PST by TruthWillWin (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other peoples money.)
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To: rickmichaels

Test drive before you buy? Salesman goes along to answer questions, shows how things work?


24 posted on 02/08/2016 5:37:20 PM PST by SkyDancer ("Nobody Said I Was Perfect But Yet Here I Am")
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To: Farmer Dean

“Doesn’t anyone actually read an owner’s manual any more?”

If I interpret this correctly, its a lot like a joystick on a video game. It always go back to the same centered position. So, for park, the driver bumps it forward 3 times, and looks for a light.

“A light shows which gear is selected, but to get from Drive to Park, drivers must push the lever forward three times. The gearshift does not have notches that match up with the gear you want to shift into, and it moves back to a centred position after the driver picks a gear”

Then there’s this:

“But investigators found that the push-button start-stop feature doesn’t shut off the engine if the vehicles aren’t in Park,

‘This function does not protect drivers who intentionally leave the engine running or drivers who do not recognize that the engine continues to run after an attempted shut-off,’ investigators wrote.”

So if I fail in bumping the joystick the right number of times, and push the engine stop button...I’ve really left the car in gear with it running.

I would never buy this car.


25 posted on 02/08/2016 5:37:43 PM PST by lacrew
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To: Farmer Dean

Doesn’t anyone actually read an owner’s manual any more?
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Perhaps they may have printed the manual in the wrong Spanish dialect?


26 posted on 02/08/2016 5:38:36 PM PST by Neidermeyer (Bill Clinton is a 5 star general in the WAR ON WOMEN and Hillary is his Goebbels.)
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To: rey

Dodge and Plymouth had those.Usually a 727 torqueflite mated to a 383 or 426 wedge.


27 posted on 02/08/2016 5:39:07 PM PST by Farmer Dean
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To: rickmichaels

Chrysler Corp had push button auto transmissions in the early 60s.

Ii somehow got on a freebee list and got free subscriptions to Car & Driver and Motor Trend. I had not really kept up with newer cars since I can no longer afford them.

One thing which surprised me is newer cars will perform better with auto transmissions than manual. For that reason I see no real reason for the standard ones anymore.

Another thing is how many gears the automatics have. Most of them are at leas 6 and some are as many as 10. Hard to believe the old powerglides got by just fine with 2.

Also horsepower especially considering how small the engines are, has gotten really high.


28 posted on 02/08/2016 5:39:29 PM PST by yarddog (Romans 8:38-39, For I am persuaded.)
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To: TruthWillWin

My two cars are stick shift and column shift. Every once in a while, I do ‘air shifting’ on the column of the wrong vehicle, when I get in.


29 posted on 02/08/2016 5:39:51 PM PST by lacrew
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To: lacrew

I’ve driven the BMW suvs with this system and find it “different” to use until you really get used to it. If you’re only an occasional driver in one, very easy to see how it can be confusing.


30 posted on 02/08/2016 5:40:58 PM PST by nascarnation
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To: rey

***They have had push button transmission before. I forgot who had them in the 50s and 60s but they had similar problems.***

I remember those! One had the buttons in the middle of the steering wheel, another had the buttons on a small square panel on the left side of the dashboard.


31 posted on 02/08/2016 5:41:41 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: rickmichaels

Are these the infamous “paddle-shifters” I’ve heard about but never seen?


32 posted on 02/08/2016 5:42:41 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("The goal of socialism is communism... Hatred is the basis of communism" --Vladimir Lenin)
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To: rickmichaels

Automatics SUCK. If everyone learned to drive stick shifts, accidents and other mishaps would decline significantly.


33 posted on 02/08/2016 5:43:27 PM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
This is what Allison uses in trucks and buses.

I spent many years helping develop it.


34 posted on 02/08/2016 5:44:23 PM PST by nascarnation
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To: nascarnation

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=07vdtBMG4Kg


35 posted on 02/08/2016 5:44:24 PM PST by freefdny
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To: rickmichaels

SB ‘P D N R’ not ‘P R N D’..


36 posted on 02/08/2016 5:45:17 PM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
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To: nascarnation
Nope.


37 posted on 02/08/2016 5:45:22 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("The goal of socialism is communism... Hatred is the basis of communism" --Vladimir Lenin)
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To: aomagrat

This article caused me and my husband to have an argument about what an automatic gear shift even looks like.

I like my 5 speed. I learned to drive standards when I was in Spain, and stayed with it ever since. I don’t know about now, but in the 80’s, Europe had not embraced the use of automatics.


38 posted on 02/08/2016 5:46:03 PM PST by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: lacrew

We have the same make/model of vehicle. Makes taking the other one seamless.


39 posted on 02/08/2016 5:46:16 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: TruthWillWin

I have a Jag and Hubby has a Mercedes. I can’t find anything in the Mercedes when I drive it. Takes me a minute to acclimate. Lol


40 posted on 02/08/2016 5:46:37 PM PST by sheana
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