Posted on 02/06/2016 4:56:28 AM PST by Nextrush
"In the light of recent events that took place today and conversations with the FBI and the people at the refuge, we have decided to stand down our PPN Call to Action"
Pacific Patriots Network "OFFICIAL STAND DOWN" 2/5/2016
"When the night sky glows with the red fires of war and the threat of annihilation pounds at your door you don't have to pretend its true got no nerves of steel to believe that the Love of the Lord is actual and real in this world thunder rocks in the darkness Out in the eye of the storm the friends of God suffer no permanent harm"
Mark Heard-"Eye of the Storm"
The Pacific Patriots Network issued a 'stand down' order yesterday regarding a planned march into the Harney County Resource Center (Malheur National Wildlife Refuge) this morning.
"OregonLive" reporter Fedor Zarkharin wrote: ".....BJ Soper, a founding member of the Pacific Patriots Network, said the group was going to escort the holdouts from the refuge. But Soper learned that the occupiers said they were resigned to die and that attempts to remove them would be met by force..."
PPN is instead directing their volunteers that were enroute to Harney County, Oregon today to gather at the site of Robert LaVoy Finicum's death for a memorial.
The original intention of PPN was to take the four people inside the refuge out and effectively end the occupation of the refuge to protest the injustice done in the renewed imprisonment of Dwight and Stephen Hammond.
Ammon Bundy said in his statement from jail a few days ago that the occupation was the right thing to do and the folks left at the refuge are following their leader even though he is not with them.
This whole 'patriot' operation reminds me of history from 1962 in Albany, Georgia where Dr. Martin Luther was sitting in a jail, refusing to be bailed out. King needed to stay in jail to keep the protest movement of civil disobedience against racial segregation building and going forward.
The Kennedy Administration needed to short circuit his protest to please the white Democrats of Georgia. JFK needed to hold the Democrat Party together with a go slow on racial issues policy which MLK rejected.
First Kennedy used the host of NBC's "Meet the Press" who tried to lure Dr. King out of jail with an offer to be the guest.
When that failed a Justice Department official was sent to Albany where he 'anonymously' posted bail to undermine Dr. King's protest movement, which ended in failure.
I sincerely believe that the PPN group including Idaho III Percent and Oath Keepers were doing pretty much that kind of a job on the protest Ammon Bundy launched because of the injustice done in the return of Dwight and Steven Hammond to prison.
They said at the beginning they opposed the protest. Then they got emotional about FBI action at the refuge and showed up all militarized in a way Ammon Bundy, LaVoy Finicum and the others there weren't. Ammon Bundy sent them away but not after they put on a frightening show for the media to spread around the world.
The PPN people all along have been trying to hurt Ammon Bundy just like JFK tried to hurt MLK in the early 1960's. I think its because they are afraid of any conflict or violence in this situation will hurting the Republican Party and its unity.
The GOP candidates for president echoed the PPN position in opposing the occupation protest and calling for a stand down from its beginning.
Since the days of RIchard NixOn, the GOPe has put a lot of stock, now more than ever since 9/11, in the support of law enforcement organizations and unions, even ones whose members may be supporting tyranny like Oregon law enforcement is right now.
The Oregon State Sheriff's Association issued a statement yesterday to oppose any actions deemed 'illegal' as a means of protest.
The statement reads in part:
"These militia men and women have broken into publicly owned buildings, disrespected Native American heritage and intimidated and harassed local residents and officials.
These men and women are asking for change, and we support their right to challenge our government to make change. However, we do not agree with or support any citizen or elected official who would advocate for change in a manner that includes illegal action, threats of violence, or violence against any citizen of the United States."
Perhaps this organization would be better named the "Oregon State Sheriffs of Nottingham Association".
Some one thousand people were on hand for the funeral of LaVoy Finicum in Kanab, Utah yesterday. The funeral procession was led by a group of men on horseback and followed by many dozens of men, women and children riding on horseback, including Cliven Bundy, LaVoy's friend and father of the now jailed Ammon Bundy.
Shawna Cox, released from jail after being arrested when LaVoy was killed, was allowed by a federal judge to attend the funeral. She is under house arrest at her Utah home.
"Oregon Live" reports that more than 30 memorial events are planned for Lavoy Fincium in 17 states this weekend.
To wrap up, my prayers are that God would Bless All, even those one might call enemies like the FBI, government officials and law enforcement.
General George Patton's speech and Pastor Martin Niemoller's admonition in a modern context might read like this:
"What did you do when they came for the cowboys and the ranchers, what did you do in the great war on the cowboys....well I did nothing because I wasn't a cowboy and well I shoveled political s**t on the internet."
Isn't it time to support the four people at the refuge with prayer as well?
I don't believe in guns, violence or the two major political parties and their operatives like the "patriots" mentioned above to do good at this point.
I would gladly welcome unarmed, non violent actions in the spirit of Dr. Martin Luther King, Operation Rescue and Gandhi outside the sphere of the PPN folks at this moment.
The FBI side already initiated violence in this situation, let them go Bull Connor on clearly unarmed people.
May the spiritual power of peaceful thinking and action be unleashed on the evil doings of the federal government in our Western states which have become entrenched over the decades much as the racial system called Jim Crow did in our Southern states in the decades following the Civil War.
And another General Patton "story" as portrayed in the 1970 movie. Patton trips over a sleeping soldier as he finds his new headquarters in disarray. The soldier rises from the floor and is asked by the general what he is doing. The soldier answers that he was getting some sleep. Patton responds that he should get back down sleeping, saying you're the 'only son of a ..... around here who knows what he's doing".
Well, Ammon Bundy, the late LaVoy Finicum and those arrested, charged and or at the refuge still when compared to the antics of the PPN seem to me to be the 'only sons of someone who know what they're doing' for better or worse.
If anyone wants to support them or the plight of Western farmers or ranchers, I hope they set the nonviolent examples of the past.
I'm scandalized.
Okay, I'm not. It said things that were news to me, and it was a tale well told. It thereby passed the most important test for the vast majority of readers.
I don't remember Martin Luther King ever holing up in a federal facility, armed to the teeth. Maybe I missed it.
“Nonviolence” ended when the feds pulled the trigger.
Again.
and Again.
And Again...................
Unfortunately, the tyranny of fed land grabs, eco Nazi or not, are not in the national spotlight as MLK’s civil rights issues were at that time.
Hopefully, Oregon will help bring current tyranny to light or at least widen the exposure, but I’m afraid that’s all it’ll do.
Nonviolence was never the goal of either side.
Thanks for the update. I do hope the four get out of there alive any way they can.
It’s funny that so many people, especially political junkies, have no idea what the issues are. Recall, Oregon Rep. Greg Walden spelled it all out on C-SPAN describing the legislation he wrote on this. The democratic process ran it’s course and nothing happened.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DcYg1f3NERc
Because of all the annoying gnats that buzz around on FR, it’s best in small doses. Every year or so I pop in here and the same gnats are still at it. It is boring.
The biggest buffoon of all goes so far as to try to trick people by writing “This account has been suspended” to reduce complaints and I’m sure there are many. I used to donate but management appears to condone this so I don’t leave mad, I just leave. Take care.
It's not just Obama, it's the whole federal government.
It's not misdirected, it's just that they are lying about what is going on.
We borrowed tons of 'money' from the Chinese. We had to, in order to keep the government 'running' because our politicians have been stealing the taxpayers money (that should have been used to pay the loans) and keeping it for themselves. For instance, the $6 billion missing from the State Department. The Chinese don't want 'money' in return, as US money is actually worthless to them. What they WANTED first was higher quality steel. That was what the CASH FOR CLUNKERS was all about.
But that didn't pay off the 'debt'. So now they want LAND, especially FARM LAND.
That is why the FEDS have been declaring vast tracts of land as NATIONAL MONUMENTS and kicking everyone off these lands. Most of these lands have valuable mineral rights associated with them. The CHINESE don't want anyone digging up 'their land', nor any Americans driving RECREATIONAL VEHICLES on 'their land', nor camping on it.
The Bundy's , the Hammond's , are all Americans who have land the CHINESE want. And OUR GOVERNMENT plans to give it to them come hell or high water.
Over 40% of US LAND has already been pledged as COLLATERAL on these loans.
THAT is what this is really all about.
THANK YOU ... for that perspective
And now you’ll note that this thread, like your others, has been moved to Chat where it belongs.
Also your obnoxious ALL CAPS title has been changed.
Most reasonable people would learn from this after the first few times.
Post your vanities in Chat and see if that doesn’t work out a lot better for you.
You said it.
If this kind of mentality existed in the 1700’s, we would still be English colonies.
It’s no wonder the gun grabbers are so adamant about getting our guns.
Interesting,
You should be moved to a rubber room where you belong.
Why not write a vanity thread about it and label it “News”?
Don’t forget to use ALL CAPS in the title.
Wheres that like button when you need it,
bttt
Nah, not necessary. It’s common knowledge that you’re an imbecile.
I guess the Moderator that moved the thread to Chat and changed the title must be an imbecile too, right?
Ditto to your post, and a thanks for the link.
The moderator isn’t on here whining like an attention seeking baby. That’s what you do. That’s all you do.
Your nonstop “vanity” harassment over nothing drives people out of here but you don’t care because in your demented little mind it’s all about you.
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