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To: Robert DeLong

Wrong...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural-born-citizen_clause

The use of the phrase “natural born” was not without precedent. Statutes in England prior to American independence used the phrase “natural born subject”. For example, the British Foreign Protestants Naturalization Act 1708:[10][11]

The children of all natural born subjects born out of the ligeance [i.e. out of England] of Her Majesty Her Heirs and Successors shall be deemed and adjudged to be natural born subjects of this Kingdom to all intents, constructions, and purposes whatsoever.

Another example is the Plantation Act 1740:[12]

[A]ll persons born out of the legience of His Majesty, His Heirs, or Successors, who have . . . or shall inhabit or reside for . . . seven years or more in any of His Majesty’s colonies in America . . . shall be deemed, adjudged, and taken to be His Majesty’s natural-born subjects of this Kingdom.


47 posted on 02/06/2016 12:42:44 AM PST by JediJones (Marco Rubio: When the Establishment Says Jump, He Asks How High?)
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To: JediJones
No you are wrong JediJones. That would apply to someone like John McCain, who was born overseas while his father was absent the country in service to the United States. It does not apply to someone who immigrates here and has a child here. They are in no way "natural born" citizens. The children become naturalized citizens as do their parents when they become naturalized. Now if the parent is an American citizen before the birth of the child, then the child is a "natural born" citizen. If the parent had a child before they became a citizen then the are granted citizenship, but only as a naturalized citizen. Thus an immigrant could have one or more children that are naturalized citizens, and other children who are "natural born" citizens.

Ted Cruz's parents were not out of the country in service to the United States. In fact his father had either applied for Canadian citizenship, or had already been granted Canadian citizenship. Which is why Ted held dual citizenships of Canada, as well as, America up until 4 years ago when he renounced his Canadian citizenship.

A natural born citizen has no other country laying claims on them by which they are granting them citizenship to a foreign country.

You also have to place yourself back into the timeframe our Founders were operating in. Citizenship was passed on to offspring by virtue of the citizenship of the father, not the mother. Same held true in Britain as well.

48 posted on 02/06/2016 1:23:23 AM PST by Robert DeLong (u)
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