Posted on 01/30/2016 4:42:05 AM PST by Nextrush
There are still four people occupying the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge in Harney County, Oregon.
David Fry, Jeff Banta, Sean Anderson and his wife Sandy are still there with the FBI saying negotiations are going on around the clock.
The four want safe conduct out and decided not to leave after the FBI arrested others like Jason Patrick who left the refuge with promises of safe conduct out.
The imprisoned leader of the occupation, Ammon Bundy, has called for the occupation to end, but the FBI's conduct with people leaving is putting a roadblock in the way.
The Pacific Patriot Network, which was negotiating to get people out, said it felt double crossed by the FBI's actions. On Thursday, the group called for a mobilization of patriots in the Burns, Oregon area.
Intitial reports spoke of a gathering today, but new reports speak of a Monday gathering in Burns. The PPN statement uses the words 'PEACEFULLY assemble within Burns, Oregon immediately.'
The PPN issued a statement yesterday with some demands including the resignation of local officials like Judge Stephen Grasty and Sheriff Dave Ward and the "Immediate removal of all militarized FBI personnel and equipment from Harney County."
It also called for the detention of the FBI Special Agent in Charge and all FBI and other law enforcement involved in the fatal shooting of LaVoy Finicum.
After their announcement, the profile of the FBI-Oregon State Police roadblocks in the area of the refuge was reduced with a pulling back of gear that included armored vehicles. Perhaps this was designed to prevent any confrontation.
Meanwhile a five foot tall wooden cross has appeared along US Route 395 north of Burns at the site where Robert "LaVoy" Finicum was shot to death Tuesday afternoon when the authorities arrested occupation leaders.
The snow is still bloodstained at the site of the cross, made of 2 by 4's.
Yesterday, a federal magistrate ordered two of the ten people who were arrested, Shawna Cox and Joseph O'Shaughnessy, released.
Is there something more important going on than the political porn show in Iowa right now?
There sure is.
The fight in Oregon and other western states is truly one about 'life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness' as laid out in our nation's Declaration of Independence.
LaVoy Finicum is denied his life, the Hammonds are denied their liberty (the ranchers whose imprisonment led to the occupation), and all the across the Western states farmers, ranchers and loggers are denied their pursuit of happiness by federal restrictions on the land.
Perhaps Mr. Donald Trump and Senator Ted Cruz could get their priorities straight at this time in history.
I have no time to be drawn into the pants on the ground drama playing out over the caucus in this forum and elsewhere.
There's something more worthwhile than the political porn show to worry about.
This whole affair is one of the strangest situations I’ve come across in years.
LaVoy should have immediately left his gun in the vehicle before exiting. The second he reached for his pocket, he knows he's going to be shot. If he is shot and were unarmed, the nation would have been in a rage. Poor thinking on his part.
Not worth the paper they are written on
Promise of safe conduct: "Our boss, Obama, says if 'you like your life you can keep your life.' What more could anyone ask?"
“Safe conduct” does not mean “immunity from prosecution.”
A bunch of peaceful ranchers, pushed to their limits by a grasping federal agency, peacefully protest by occupying a vacant outbuilding, not blocking anyone, and the full force of the Federal government with the active collusion of a Democrat governor, a racist Attorney General and a Marxist racist President, treat them like violent criminals. The actions of the Federal Government are extreme, excessive, racist and unconstitutional. No similar action was taken against the rioters in Baltimore who were black, or the radical leftists who seized Wall Street.
Thank you for the update.
Thanks for that summary; I haven’t been able to find one before.
They did seem to want to be ‘pardoned’ as the media reported implying to me they did not want to be charged if they left refuge. I’m sorry I didn’t write it that way.
BTTT
I trust most FBI agents in most situations. As for the ones at an ambush after a promise of safe passage, I find trust difficult. I imagine LaVoy felt the same. He may have believed (perhaps correctly) that, armed or not, they would find his gun in his pocket/holster/waistband after shooting him. He may even have followed your advice, and they still found guns on him.
It is not clear to me from the video whether LaVoy was reaching for a gun/pocket, steadying himself on uneven snow, or actually shot before the movement that is claimed to have provoked the shooting and reaching for where he was hit. What is clear is that they were prepared to kill at least one of the people promised "safe passage", to make sure that decent people get the message - Obama's minions will not tolerate anything less than worshipful obedience.
Intentional act on his part, IMO.
Now, in some eyes, he is a martyr.
A well organized militia (the constitutional military) has preference over statute thugs. Why do statute thugs get to dictate to a constitutional military? Everything is backwards. Pardon from statute thugs???????
I am not an advocate for violent resistance, but any resistance, even non violent has often descended into the violent kind and that definitely includes the Civil Rights situation.
When the pictures and films of Bull Connor’s dogs and water cannon in action were spread around, many white people were ashamed and black people were enraged into seeing any police action against them in all parts of the country as the equivalent of Connor’s actions leading to riots in cities everywhere in the end.
Timing can be right if circumstances are planned, perhaps there’s some sort of unplanned circumstance going on.
I want peace but I have no control over what others choose to do or how events unfold in the days ahead.
He apparently was shot by an agent in his left side while his hands were raised up. He grabbed his left side to reduce the pain. He was then shot in the right shoulder by a second agent. Finicum staggered and then was shot from his rear and killed by a third agent. Go to YouTube then search for LaVoy Finicum to see the video evidence. This violent confrontation could have been avoided if the FBI would have been more patient with the protesters.
I especially like how the maker of the video includes Lavoys words during the encounter.
Apparently the enhanced zoom tool also includes a dialog maker upper module.
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