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Trump's Tax Plan: So Terrific That It Would Add More Debt Than Obama's Seven Years In Office
townhall ^ | 1-28-2016 | Matt Vespa

Posted on 01/29/2016 1:23:39 PM PST by Citizen Zed

For a man who is running to "make America great again," Donald Trump's tax plan is exceedingly expensive. According to an analysis by the Tax Foundation, Trump's plan would add trillions to the national debt, more than the current sum added after seven years of President Obama's policies (via Weekly Standard):

When Barack Obama took office, America's national debt was $10.6 trillion. It's now $19.0 trillion -- an increase of $8.4 trillion in just seven years, or $1.2 trillion per year. One of the key reasons the Tea Party movement was founded was out of frustration with this skyrocketing debt. Yet Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump's proposed tax plan would increase the national debt by $10.1 trillion, according to scoring by the nonpartisan Tax Foundation.

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To: Reagan Disciple

I like Cruz too. In the beginning, I was leaning towards Gov. Walker. I like that he has withstood tough odds to accomplish what he’s accomplished.

My problem with Cruz is the eligibility factor. He’s eligible but that won’t matter if he gets the nomination. The hellfire that will rain down on him from the Democrats and the news media will be relentless. He’ll end up spending half his time answering the same questions about this “controversy” to the detriment of his own message getting out to the public. Cruz has yet to prove he is capable of going over the heads of the media. I don’t like his chances.

I would love to see him remain in the Senate to raise hell and push the right agenda there. He already has that gig.


41 posted on 01/29/2016 3:29:33 PM PST by upsdriver
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To: Reagan Disciple
I am used to candidates of both parities making promises they cant possibly keep, and know they cant,l but the Trumpster will up ante any promise made by a competing candidate.

Mad at illegals ?? : He will deport them all

Worried because you need them to paint your house and cut your lawn? :
He will bring them back

Don beats them all.

42 posted on 01/29/2016 3:42:17 PM PST by sickoflibs (Donald Trump : 'It will be wonderful. It will be glorious., You will be amazed, Just wait')
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To: Citizen Zed

Trump: Living rent free in your head since 2015!


43 posted on 01/29/2016 3:44:15 PM PST by Basket_of_Deplorables (Trump: Living rent free in liberal 'splodey heads since 2015!)
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To: upsdriver
I get the concern but here's a great example of what I was talking about.

This wasn't an issue (and to me is not because despite where he was born, his mother was a natural born US citizen and registered his birth with the US consulate in Canada - under this concern no one born overseas to at least one natural born parent would be a US citizen) until Trump made it one AFTER saying his lawyers looked into it and it wasn't an issue. Fear factor stuff.

If.....this is your main concern then I can see your apprehension in supporting him BUT if he has the same principles as you do and a record of defending them then the lawsuit thing would be a pure afterthought.

Walker is a good man and despite his leaning toward amnesty would still probably have made a formidable candidate had his funds not dried up. He was a tad lazy it seemed, like Fred Thompson was.

Trump has done wonders in bringing major issues to the fore and exploiting them not only for his benefit, but that of the country.

I can't back him now as there is a true Conservative in the race, but I can against any Liberal on the planet.

44 posted on 01/29/2016 3:51:40 PM PST by Reagan Disciple (Peace through Strength)
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To: Grampa Dave; sickoflibs
Please friend, simply saying you'll lower the marginal rates at a time when the deficit is greater that 100% of the GDP isn't Reaganeque when you also say you won't reform SS or Medicare and in fact on the latter, go “very non-Republican” to say everyone will be covered for health care and it's the big drug companies that are causing the problem and the fix will be the gov’t will pick up the tab when the prices fall yet the market price does not....it's nowhere near conservative and certainly nowhere close to the principles of Goldwater and Reagan.

You want to redefine Conservatism to squeeze a non-Conservative like Trump into the box, it's a free will thing.

The principles aren't living and breathing no matter how popular the candidate may be.

45 posted on 01/29/2016 3:58:52 PM PST by Reagan Disciple (Peace through Strength)
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To: Reagan Disciple

So you are for a VAT Tax?


46 posted on 01/29/2016 4:07:15 PM PST by Grampa Dave (Trump is the wrecking ball destroying GOPe, FAUX & their bs mediot conspirators & beltway pundits!)
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To: Grampa Dave; Reagan Disciple
RE:”Great. Now we have alleged conservatives using liberal arguments against Reaganesque tax plan. One of them even calls himself. Reagan Disciple”

Its a GOP tradition to promise to cut taxes without any near parity in spending cuts, as with Dems promising increasing spending without near parity tax increases(as Sanders is doing now) . Trump just does every-thing bigger than the others esp BS.

But what we should have learned from GWB is that he couldn't get his tax cuts past a Senate filibuster so the GOP Senate used budget resolution to cut them with a simple Senate majority.

The drawback was they expired 10 years later at the end of 2012.

Recall all the fuss here cursing at Boehner because he only got most of those tax cuts extended signed by Obama, instead of all?

Recall all those here claiming they raised taxes by extending only SOME of the Bush tax cuts? All goes back to how they got passed in the Senate

That was what it was about.

47 posted on 01/29/2016 4:16:53 PM PST by sickoflibs (Donald Trump : 'It will be wonderful. It will be glorious., You will be amazed, Just wait')
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To: Grampa Dave; Reagan Disciple

OH,,worse yet 2017 (2016 )might just bring a Dem controlled Senate.

Expect a beating this fall in the Senate races

That would be NO real tax cuts, Trump or no Trump.


48 posted on 01/29/2016 4:20:11 PM PST by sickoflibs (Donald Trump : 'It will be wonderful. It will be glorious., You will be amazed, Just wait')
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To: Citizen Zed

This makes me laugh, Trumps plan is essentially the same as Ronald Reagan’s. He must have been a progressive too.


49 posted on 01/29/2016 4:22:34 PM PST by yuleeyahoo ( Man does not control his own fate. The women in his life do that for him. - Groucho Marx)
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To: Grampa Dave
No I am not and I can see where you coming from although Cruz is proposing it as a business tax to be paid by the company and not as a consumption tax as the product comes to market.

But I think it's not the best way to pitch it despite the flat aspect to it. I think (hope) if he were to become president he would modify it be a simple flat tax. Right now he's riding Laffer’s endorsement on it from the growth aspect but the reality it the same can be accomplished if he simply defined it as a business tax and enforced it as such.

50 posted on 01/29/2016 4:25:34 PM PST by Reagan Disciple (Peace through Strength)
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To: Kazan

Meaning he won’t reduce the size of government.


51 posted on 01/29/2016 4:59:12 PM PST by Bulwyf
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To: Reagan Disciple
How can you use that nic, when obviously you either don't know anything about Reagan, or are just a stinking liar?

Perhaps you're both!

Whom do YOU support?

Are you sure that you can trust him? And if you do, WHY ?

52 posted on 01/29/2016 5:11:18 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Reagan Disciple
A VAT IS A VAT, IS A VAT, IS A DAMNED VAT !

Cruz's plans change as the winds blow and then he LIES about what he says earlier.

Have you ever read Trump's tax plan?

53 posted on 01/29/2016 5:13:30 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Reagan Disciple

Trump IS a CONSERVATIVE, as opposed to many of the other arrogant, ambitious, power hungry candidates.


54 posted on 01/29/2016 5:15:01 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Grampa Dave
So I see.

This is getting truly insane. :-(

55 posted on 01/29/2016 5:16:06 PM PST by nopardons
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To: RoosterRedux; All

Yup. These morons never heard of “The Laffer Curve” nor ever studied famed economist Milton Friedman’s writings on the topic.


56 posted on 01/29/2016 5:26:23 PM PST by Cobra64 (Common sense isn't common any more)
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To: Citizen Zed

Vote for Bernie...get free chit.


57 posted on 01/29/2016 5:26:38 PM PST by moovova
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To: Kazan; All
Correct. Trump's plan mimics Reagan's plan, Trump has backing by Arthur Laffer who will most likely be his advisor, Trump is the only candidate that has constantly mentioned the $19 trillion debt, very few have bothered to look at Trump's position paper on the topic, nor have they bothered to look at Trump's financial statements, his balance sheet in particular.

Aside from that, all the bashers tout themselves as economic and financial geniuses who think his daughter is an ugly bimbo too..

58 posted on 01/29/2016 5:44:25 PM PST by Cobra64 (Common sense isn't common any more)
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To: Grampa Dave

Yes, for some reason Sen. Cruz’s VAT tax hasn’t gotten much publicity. VAT taxes are a terrible idea.


59 posted on 01/29/2016 5:44:25 PM PST by freeandfreezing
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To: Reagan Disciple
Cruz is proposing it as a business tax to be paid by the company and not as a consumption tax as the product comes to market

Regardless of how the tax is collected, it has exactly the same effect. Practically speaking, in order to get compliance the tax will either have to be collected at the time of sale or provision of service, or there will have to be an elaborate enforcement scheme.

And remember, a "business" tax is a personal tax for every self employed person, and most small business owners. And the customer will most certainly have to pay the 16%, since the seller or service provider will owe the 16% as soon as the transaction is completed.

60 posted on 01/29/2016 5:51:18 PM PST by freeandfreezing
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