Posted on 12/17/2015 2:48:26 PM PST by SunkenCiv
The researchers are basing their claims on a number of Roman discoveries in Oak Island...
As well as the stone, they found carved stones on Oak Island also 'possess a language from the ancient Levant' according to Pulitzer.
Other findings include a Roman legionnaire's whistle found on Oak Island in 1901, a Roman shield 'boss' and a small Roman head sculpture found in Mexico City in 1933.
Another clue, in his report, is the presence of an invasive species of plant which was once used by Romans...
'The ceremonial sword came out of that shipwreck,' he told The Boston Standard. 'It is one incredible Roman artefact.'
He bases this on studies of his the artefacts metallic properties which match those of other ancient Roman artefacts.
'It has the same arsenic and lead signature in it. We've been able to test this sword against another one like it and it matches,' he said.
Pulitzer's report also details a number of Mi'kmaq carved images by indigenous people drawn on cave walls in Nova Scotia.
Some of these images show what Pulitzer believes to be Roman legionnaires.
Carved stones on Oak Island also 'possess a language from the ancient Levant' according to Pulitzer.
Other findings include a Roman legionnaire's whistle found on Oak Island in 1901, a Roman shield 'boss' and a small Roman head sculpture found in Mexico City in 1933.
Gold Carthage coins have also been discovered on the mainland near Oak Island.
Another clue, in his report, is the presence of an invasive species of plant which was once used by Romans.
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The story goes that somewhere along the line someone decided to bury immense fortunes on the island. To mark this secret spot they supposedly planted the island full of oaks which identifies it as the secret island so only they know which is the right one because oaks are said to not be common and none of the other islands are full of oaks.
The issue with that is that doing so would be a giant sign saying "Land here!"
Ancient ships often became damaged on long trips. Oak would have been one of the woods most needed to do repairs. Why plant an island full of the tree most valuable to ancient travelers?
Every captain with a successful record of exploration would have a profile in mind of islands they needed to put in on. Besides materials for repair and fresh water a captain would be looking for food for resupply. Oak forests and the surrounding environs not only tend to have a lot of wild food available they also tend to have one of the more valuable things they would be eternally short on, meat. Everything from various fowl and squirrels all the way up through deer, bear, and wild boar (you and I know that there are no boar there but adventurers to a new continent would not know and if there were any they would be hanging out where the acorns are). Nearly every ancient captain would stop here knowing that the islands covered in white birch, tag alder bogs, whatever else there is over there, are not going to be as productive.
Its not just the captain who would have known this via some secret captain training. Not very long ago most of the population were farmers. Everyone close to the land knows that oaks equals meat and not just in the form of wild game they would have collected near their farms. Ancient farmers all the way through modern homesteaders give the animals access to this type of forest if available. One would not want to put anything secret on an island where any advanced culture had access or might settle and nearly every member of every crew passing by would have known the value of that land and why they should land there.
Youre not just concerned with your rival culture taking the island, what about the indigenous peoples? Would it seem wise to you to plant what would be to indigenous peoples the equivalent of a combined hardware and grocery store with free high quality fuel and then run away and expect it not to be inhabited when you return? How are you sure the locals are going to be cooperative when you return? Are you sure youre going to have enough men to take back the island and get your treasure? Even if the locals didn't make any camps on the island, even if the locals didn't think your treasures valuable, would it be wise to draw as many intelligent eyes as possible to your secret? Might they not make an arrangement with one of your cultural competitors?
IF there were any Vikings, romans, irish monks, pirates, basque fisherman, or anyone else travelling through this area they would make a point of stopping here. Planting the island full of oaks to mark your secret would have been possibly the most singularly ignorant thing a person could do to give your secret away.
It should be relatively cheap and easy to send it to a university to check the origin by profile of the metals composition. If they really suspect it of being authentic the tests would have been done already.
I don't think that's ancient at all.
I wholeheartedly agree. In a later episode the bros take a trip to the lab where it was examined, and it was found to be modern. I suspect it's something like that. Probably some wall decor, or Masonic crap.
wiki: Steel is an alloy of iron and carbon and other elements. Because of its high tensile strength and low cost, it is a major component used in buildings, infrastructure, tools, ships, automobiles, machines, appliances, and weapons.
I should have read the article more closely because it said "ceremonial sword." But your point about iron being a rare commodity was certainly true for the ancient Egyptians, but the Hittites were making iron weapons nearly a thousand years before Rome existed. The Assyrians were doing the same thing for their armies several hundred years before Rome. The Romans didn't have any difficulty equipping their legions with steel weapons and armor.
Iron is not steel and was in no way rare. Steel is carbonized iron (coking process) and the technique wasn't perfected until the middle ages.
Iron is not steel and was in no way rare. Steel is carbonized iron (coking process) and the technique wasn't perfected until after the middle ages.
The Romans didn't have any difficulty equipping their legions with steel weapons and armor.
The armor was iron not steel.
Steel was produced in bloomery furnaces for thousands of years, but its large-scale, industrial use began only after more efficient production methods were devised in the 17th century, with the production of blister steel and then crucible steel. With the invention of the Bessemer process in the mid-19th century, a new era of mass-produced steel began. This was followed by the Siemens-Martin process and then the Gilchrist-Thomas process that refined the quality of steel. With their introductions, mild steel replaced wrought iron.
The Hittites and Assyrians had iron weapons and the Romans had steel weapons. They even knew how to case-harden their lorica segmentata.
The Romans had steel in their weapons and armor. You don't have to like that fact.
Romans had more than adequate navigation, and did make the trip.
:^).
Romans came here, but I'd guess they never landed at Oak Island. Probably the only interesting things that have ever happened there is the treasure seeking, which is ironic, because it's obvious that there is no buried treasure there, and never has been buried treasure there.
The Romans had steel. Steel has been around since the 13th c BC.
https://www.worldsteel.org/steelstory/
It is possible. The ships were more than capable of making it across the big pond. But Rome had no dearth of contemporary historians and none really talked about lands to the west across the great sea.
Heck, Conan had steel, and he lived between the time when the oceans drank Atlantis, and the rise of the sons of Aryas.
My main complaint about the lore is this -- it was discovered by three teen boys, who reportedly saw strange lights on the island at night, took a boat over, found no one, but discovered that an old oak tree had some marks on a limb suggesting the past presence of block and tackle, and a depression on the ground suggesting the former presence of a hole (and remember, refilled holes generally mound UP).
Since that time the idea of a booby-trap consisting of channels to the open sea flooding the various treasure seekers' tunnels has grown up, based on NO known modern empirical evidence (lore, supposed test with dye, but the lore hasn't survived any subsequent tests with dye). It stands to reason that a low island in the ocean would have a high water table, eh?
Remarkably, modern technology has not been able to uncover the mystery of a pit that was engineered by people who used an old tree branch for their block and tackle.
My guess is, the various versions of the tales have made it possible to unload Oak Island real estate to a successtion of bigger fools.
Exactly...
They have so far found some interesting things that at least bring into question parts of accepted historical records..
Learn something every day, my sincere apologies.
Roman “steel” used in armor was case hardened iron ( packing organic plant materials in with the the iron when beat into plates). If you want to call that steel then fine. But IMO it really wasn’t steel in the modern sense of the material.
They were also in Copenhagen, and Ireland, and there's no surviving record of that, which isn't a surprise, considering the fragmentary nature and sheer age of the material.
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