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1 posted on 12/06/2015 5:28:32 PM PST by Lazamataz
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To: Lazamataz

End of the no fly list.
It required secrecy: of whether you are on it, and how without adjudication.
Now there will be litigation demanding right to militia arms a la _Heller_, and demand of strict scrutiny a la adjudication of individual prohibition.


45 posted on 12/06/2015 5:47:05 PM PST by ctdonath2 (History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the week or the timid. - Ike)
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who came up with the no fly no buy talking point? Its dumb as hell. Neither San Bernadino terrorists were on the no fly list. Will the GOP challenge this or surrender to this stupid idea


46 posted on 12/06/2015 5:47:40 PM PST by RginTN
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No lie... A friend of ours was traveling to Disney World. They were held up at the airport because the name of their preschool child was on the no fly list. This child’s name is as American as apple pie.


51 posted on 12/06/2015 5:51:57 PM PST by HangingTuff
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How about if you are a gov employee and are in the watch list, you are FIRED. That would eliminate 72 people working at TSA. Imagine this, a person checking if you should be allowed to fly is on a terror watch list. only in Obama’s distorted USA.


53 posted on 12/06/2015 5:54:27 PM PST by ThePatriotsFlag ( Anything FREELY-GIVEN by the government was TAKEN from someone else)
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Are members of the NRA already on the “list”?

Are the people Lois Lerner targeted on the “list”?

What percentage of the “list” is Christian versus Muslim?


54 posted on 12/06/2015 5:55:22 PM PST by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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1. Put all registered gun owners on the no fly list.
2. Confiscated their guns
3. Dictatorship


56 posted on 12/06/2015 6:02:45 PM PST by Flick Lives (One should not attend even the end of the world without a good breakfast. -- Heinlein)
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You're right---you can end up on the no-fly list for a number of reasons, and being suspected of terrorism is only one.

Eight Ways You Can End Up On The No Fly List

60 posted on 12/06/2015 6:06:24 PM PST by CatherineofAragon ("A real conservative will bear the scars...will have been in the trenches fighting."--- Ted Cruz)
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“Pres solution - ‘Congress authorize what I am already doing and restrict law abiding people’s right to defend themselves.’”

snip https://twitter.com/RickSantorum


71 posted on 12/06/2015 6:30:55 PM PST by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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PING!


73 posted on 12/06/2015 6:35:47 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Terrorism, the thing that shall not be named by the MSM)
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Stompy-foot made a fool of himself tonight.


76 posted on 12/06/2015 7:03:21 PM PST by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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Not quite: https://fas.org/blogs/secrecy/2015/04/no-fly-redress/


77 posted on 12/06/2015 7:13:48 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Don't mistake my silence for ignorance, my calmness for acceptance, or my kindness for weakness)
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is there some way to fight back, against
the ‘no-buy-no-fly list’ being secret?

how do we find out the names
of the people making the list?


78 posted on 12/06/2015 7:21:37 PM PST by RockyTx
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This whole thing is bs. If you are bad enough to be on the no fly list, would it not show up on the background check.

It’s a non issue.


80 posted on 12/06/2015 7:45:26 PM PST by Vermont Lt (I had student debt. It came from a bank. Not from the Govt.)
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I agree with you, Laz.


81 posted on 12/06/2015 7:52:43 PM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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When we were all young and optimistic, could you imagine seeing the things going on today with the approval of half the Voting Population in your Lifetime?

I certainly can’t.


88 posted on 12/06/2015 10:34:10 PM PST by Kickass Conservative (Obama, unable to call a Spade a Spade...)
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” In this effort, the present “No-Fly List” would be used to also deny the purchase of firearms to those people who are on that list.”

The vast majority of people on the no-fly list aren’t even Americans. In Aug 2013 only 800 of over 40,000 were Americans.


89 posted on 12/06/2015 10:55:40 PM PST by Mike Darancette (CA the sanctuary state for stupid.)
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Good assessment - not many are aware of the total lack of Constitutional objectivity/protections of the No Fly “standards...


92 posted on 12/07/2015 3:14:44 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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IBNonIslamicZOT. Hey, Laz, you had a GOOD run.


93 posted on 12/07/2015 3:20:42 AM PST by RedHeeler
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Ted Kennedy was irked to be on a *no-fly* list.

It was his driver’s license that should have been revoked, IIRC.


96 posted on 12/07/2015 4:09:48 AM PST by Daffynition (*Gun control is a tool to make innocents pay the price for the guilty* W.LaPierre)
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Actually, Laz - "The No-Fly-No-Buy List" has a moar sinister purpose, I believe. This is why all the Usual Suspects are doing a War Dance about it:

The No-Fly List Gun Ban: Government Terrorism
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3369437/posts

kiryandil wrote: The "no-fly list" gambit isn't about preventing "folks" from buying guns.

It's about putting their enemies on a secret list and kicking their doors in at 3 am to confiscate "the arsenal" - and killing the target as a bonus if they twitch..

What'll happen is "an accident" In Committee - and out will pop a CutePuppies/FuzzyKittens bill that will bar the listees from buying guns - AND POSSESSING THEM.

3AM SWAT raids to follow...

==================

Geez, dude - I'm 3 editorials behind you. :(

And that's you WITHOUT coffee...

113 posted on 12/07/2015 7:20:08 PM PST by kiryandil ("When Muslims in the White House are outlawed, only Barack Obama will be an outlaw")
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