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The No-Fly-No-Buy List
Original Material | 12/6/2015 | By Laz A. Mataz

Posted on 12/06/2015 5:28:32 PM PST by Lazamataz

So, the Big Speech is over. Obama spoke from the Oval Office about the domestic Islamic terrorism that occurred in San Bernadino a few days ago.

Many gun owners, myself included, dreaded this speech as the possible introduction point for unconstitutional Executive Orders on firearms. The Executive Order (excuse me, 'Executive Action') floated most heavily was to bring private firearms sales under the Brady Act. The announcement did not materialize.

One of two gun control urgings that did appear, however, is something I deem the "No-Fly-No-Buy List". In this effort, the present "No-Fly List" would be used to also deny the purchase of firearms to those people who are on that list.

Let us discuss the "No-Fly List". While, at first glance, it appears to be a useful tool to prevent terrorists from flying, it has a few characteristics that make it very Soviet-like:

This is an Un-Citizen-List. Placement on this list makes you an Un-Person, at least in regards to your ability to travel freely. That is not acceptable in a society like ours.

Now, along comes OTrauma, who pitches the idea -- not to REFORM this legal tool -- but to EXPAND it to include firearms purchases.

There is no due process. The present list must be reformed, not, instead, have its function expanded!

It is important that we do not let the "No-Fly List" become the "No-Fly-No-Buy List."


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To: IAMNO1
 
 
Or maybe like that poor guy in Invasion of the Body Snatchers (?) -
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AN0-eGTNhq4&t=44s
 
 

61 posted on 12/06/2015 6:11:19 PM PST by lapsus calami (What's that stink? Code Pink ! ! And their buddy Murtha, too!)
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To: WildHighlander57

Good question.Frankly, I think it is simply his denial that Israel exists. I don’t know how I managed not to yell at the TV!


62 posted on 12/06/2015 6:17:35 PM PST by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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To: Lazamataz; Old Sarge; aragorn; EnigmaticAnomaly; freeangel; kalee; TWhiteBear; Salvation; ...
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Ping to The No-Fly-No-Buy List

In case you've forgotten, Laz is the guy I often quote. He says, "we are so...."

Thanks, Laz.

63 posted on 12/06/2015 6:18:21 PM PST by LucyT
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To: Lazamataz
Coining a phrase, you saw it here first. The “No-Fly-No-Buy List”.

Ranks right up there with "I'd hit it."

I have no problem with a terrorist watch list, but I have a huge problem with a "No Fly" list. Without due process, how can the government ban you from flying? I think the most that being on the terrorist watch list should do is flag you to TSA for the Grandmother treatment, each and every time you board an airplane. No more.

64 posted on 12/06/2015 6:19:03 PM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: spodefly
“Are members of the NRA already on the "list"? I'm a Benefactor Life Member of the NRA, and if this thing ever starts to get legs, I'll be making the biggest stink of my 30 years with the NRA EVER for their taking action against it (through the ILA). Unlike with O’Dumbo, a line has to be drawn in the sand and then actually held. As Mr. T used to say, I pity the fool, and the fool in this case is the whack job in the white house.
65 posted on 12/06/2015 6:19:51 PM PST by IAMNO1 (Enough with the divisions. Lets get somebody in there who'll fix this mess.)
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To: All

PS, see # 41.

66 posted on 12/06/2015 6:22:08 PM PST by LucyT
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To: LucyT
In case you've forgotten, Laz is the guy I often quote. He says, "we are so...."

If anyone forgets that, they are not a regular Freeper.

That phrase, and "I'd hit it." :)

67 posted on 12/06/2015 6:22:22 PM PST by Lazamataz ( If they try firearm confiscation or gun registration, I go ballistic.)
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To: IAMNO1

Hogs bristle brush with borax will do a good job. LOL! My eyes are still burning.


68 posted on 12/06/2015 6:27:28 PM PST by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?!)
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To: Lazamataz

I’m using that tomorrow when I call my sinators.


69 posted on 12/06/2015 6:27:37 PM PST by ealgeone
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To: okie01

You forgot one. He knows better and he doesn’t care what a bunch of old white slave owners wrote.


70 posted on 12/06/2015 6:28:36 PM PST by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?!)
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To: Lazamataz

“Pres solution - ‘Congress authorize what I am already doing and restrict law abiding people’s right to defend themselves.’”

snip https://twitter.com/RickSantorum


71 posted on 12/06/2015 6:30:55 PM PST by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: 50mm

“The fascists will abuse the no-fly list to restrict gun rights.”

Maybe they should revoke the Federal employment status of the 75 DHSers on the no-fly list, first.


72 posted on 12/06/2015 6:33:16 PM PST by castlebrew (Gun Control means hitting where you're aiming!))
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To: Lazamataz; 3D-JOY; abner; Abundy; AGreatPer; Albion Wilde; AliVeritas; alisasny; ...

PING!


73 posted on 12/06/2015 6:35:47 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Terrorism, the thing that shall not be named by the MSM)
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To: rktman

You are a better man than me, Gunga Din.


74 posted on 12/06/2015 6:38:06 PM PST by sport
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To: CatherineofAragon

A family member — clean record, upstanding citizen — travels occasionally for work. He found himself on the no-fly list and had to go through a rigamarole to get off it.

He has a very common name. That’s all it was.

It is just another bloated and unreliable government mess.


75 posted on 12/06/2015 7:02:58 PM PST by Jedidah
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To: Lazamataz

Stompy-foot made a fool of himself tonight.


76 posted on 12/06/2015 7:03:21 PM PST by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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To: Lazamataz

Not quite: https://fas.org/blogs/secrecy/2015/04/no-fly-redress/


77 posted on 12/06/2015 7:13:48 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Don't mistake my silence for ignorance, my calmness for acceptance, or my kindness for weakness)
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To: Lazamataz

is there some way to fight back, against
the ‘no-buy-no-fly list’ being secret?

how do we find out the names
of the people making the list?


78 posted on 12/06/2015 7:21:37 PM PST by RockyTx
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To: Jedidah

Wow.

And that Muslim POS in the White House would love to prevent your relative from exercising his 2nd Amendment rights.


79 posted on 12/06/2015 7:32:27 PM PST by CatherineofAragon ("A real conservative will bear the scars...will have been in the trenches fighting."--- Ted Cruz)
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To: Lazamataz

This whole thing is bs. If you are bad enough to be on the no fly list, would it not show up on the background check.

It’s a non issue.


80 posted on 12/06/2015 7:45:26 PM PST by Vermont Lt (I had student debt. It came from a bank. Not from the Govt.)
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