Posted on 12/06/2015 5:28:32 PM PST by Lazamataz
So, the Big Speech is over. Obama spoke from the Oval Office about the domestic Islamic terrorism that occurred in San Bernadino a few days ago.
Many gun owners, myself included, dreaded this speech as the possible introduction point for unconstitutional Executive Orders on firearms. The Executive Order (excuse me, 'Executive Action') floated most heavily was to bring private firearms sales under the Brady Act. The announcement did not materialize.
One of two gun control urgings that did appear, however, is something I deem the "No-Fly-No-Buy List". In this effort, the present "No-Fly List" would be used to also deny the purchase of firearms to those people who are on that list.
Let us discuss the "No-Fly List". While, at first glance, it appears to be a useful tool to prevent terrorists from flying, it has a few characteristics that make it very Soviet-like:
This is an Un-Citizen-List. Placement on this list makes you an Un-Person, at least in regards to your ability to travel freely. That is not acceptable in a society like ours.
Now, along comes OTrauma, who pitches the idea -- not to REFORM this legal tool -- but to EXPAND it to include firearms purchases.
There is no due process. The present list must be reformed, not, instead, have its function expanded!
It is important that we do not let the "No-Fly List" become the "No-Fly-No-Buy List."
Good question.Frankly, I think it is simply his denial that Israel exists. I don’t know how I managed not to yell at the TV!
Ping to The No-Fly-No-Buy List
In case you've forgotten, Laz is the guy I often quote. He says, "we are so...."
Thanks, Laz.
Ranks right up there with "I'd hit it."
I have no problem with a terrorist watch list, but I have a huge problem with a "No Fly" list. Without due process, how can the government ban you from flying? I think the most that being on the terrorist watch list should do is flag you to TSA for the Grandmother treatment, each and every time you board an airplane. No more.
PS, see # 41.
If anyone forgets that, they are not a regular Freeper.
That phrase, and "I'd hit it." :)
Hogs bristle brush with borax will do a good job. LOL! My eyes are still burning.
I’m using that tomorrow when I call my sinators.
You forgot one. He knows better and he doesn’t care what a bunch of old white slave owners wrote.
“Pres solution - ‘Congress authorize what I am already doing and restrict law abiding people’s right to defend themselves.’”
snip https://twitter.com/RickSantorum
“The fascists will abuse the no-fly list to restrict gun rights.”
Maybe they should revoke the Federal employment status of the 75 DHSers on the no-fly list, first.
PING!
You are a better man than me, Gunga Din.
A family member — clean record, upstanding citizen — travels occasionally for work. He found himself on the no-fly list and had to go through a rigamarole to get off it.
He has a very common name. That’s all it was.
It is just another bloated and unreliable government mess.
Stompy-foot made a fool of himself tonight.
is there some way to fight back, against
the ‘no-buy-no-fly list’ being secret?
how do we find out the names
of the people making the list?
Wow.
And that Muslim POS in the White House would love to prevent your relative from exercising his 2nd Amendment rights.
This whole thing is bs. If you are bad enough to be on the no fly list, would it not show up on the background check.
It’s a non issue.
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