Posted on 11/06/2015 6:30:51 PM PST by sparklite2
"If you go to St Mark's cathedral in Venice, there's a medieval depiction showing people using the three great pyramids of Giza as granaries in Joseph's story," says John Darnell, a professor of Egyptology at Yale University.
The belief was also popularised by Saint Gregory of Tours, a sixth century Frankish bishop, who wrote: "They are wide at the base and narrow at the top in order that the wheat might be cast into them through a tiny opening, and these granaries are to be seen to the present day."
The Book of John Mandeville, a popular 14th Century travel memoir, also referred to "Joseph's Granaries, which he had made to store the wheat for hard times".
(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.com ...
Someone without an elementary school education could believe it without being a wacko.
Regards,
While all the details you stated may be true; it does not alter the fact that the pyramids were NOT designed nor intended for the storage of grain or any other agricultural commodity. Which was the salient point of discussion. I also question the value of excellent acoustucs, to a mummy in a sealed sarcophigus.
Evidently a majority of scientists believe in AWG. Are those people who disagree wackos?
I said absolutely nothing about AGW (Anthropogenic Global Warming).
Please don't muddy the waters by introducing an extraneous, irrelevant topic.
My feeling is that anyone advancing an outlying theory or unpopular belief which - on the face of it - appears ludicrous, should first recapitulate and debunk the accepted theory - before advancing his own "pet" theory. That way, he can at least first demonstrate that he isn't "talking out of his hat" - that he has an understanding of the accepted theory, but sees beyond it.
The way this has been presented in the media and/or by Mr. Carson, it sounds like he never even considered that the pyramids were around long before Joseph, that they are 95% solid stone, that they each took decades to build, etc. - and that a contrary position would only invite ridicule.
Regards,
No worries. I’ve thought about it before, but had never bothered to search for it. I think it is an oddity that they aren’t mentioned, when you consider their prominence in Egyptian history at thw time.
the pyramids were a big battery/laser beam machine aimed at orion
no grain
no resting place for king or queen
The same historic resources that cite:
“Nor were slaves used to build them - those that worked on the complex were well paid, fed, and cared for - it was an honor to work on them.”
Not sure what you are getting at - but there were no mummies ever found sealed in sarcophagus inside a pyramid - ever. All Pharaohs were buried in the Valley of the Kings, unless there turns out to be someone buried beneath the Nile and Sphinx Temples.
As I said in numerous posts, the whole idea that the Giza Pyramids were used for grain storage is as silly as the idea that they were used to tombs.
The point is acoustics have nothing to do with grain or mummies, but goes to whatever the real purpose of the Giza Pyramids was/is.
Either dumb f***s then or now.
Not clear on what you are writing, but I was asking for a specific reference as in: “This is who and why the Giza complex was built” either in hieroglyphics or script.
Where in hieroglyphics or script was it revealed:
“Nor were slaves used to build them - those that worked on the complex were well paid, fed, and cared for - it was an honor to work on them.”
That was an answer you had for someone else. Where did you find information about those that built the pyramids, how they were treated and fed, and how the workers felt about the job (”an honor”), and yet that information didn’t include the purpose of the pyramids?
Or is it you reject certain historical writings because it doesn’t fit your narrative while accepting portions of the same historical writings because it does?
Must be a black url
“Where are the pyramids mentioned in the Bible?”
Its absolute bunk to think they were intended for the storage of grain,
However I do agree Isaiah Chapter 19 is a reference to the Pyramids and tells us a little more, if others don’t see it thats okay, I wouldn’t try to sell it
The word Giza translates as ‘border’ so if you went someplace in the ‘midst’ of and yet at the border in Egypt you might find yourself staring at these pillars,
Some scholars believe the capstone was never added, which reminds me of the verse where Jesus said ‘I am the headstone the builders rejected.’ So I tend to view it a monument in stone, an alter, a witness from a time long before Moses and until long after, lasting until the time of the end,
I visited many years ago and went inside, its very impressive and the absolute size of it is startling when your driving through Cairo looking for it in the haze and finally realize its silhouetted right in front of you taking up half the sky,
If it is mentioned in the Bible, then these are the verses I would point you at:
“In that day shall there be an altar to the Lord in the midst of the land of Egypt, and a pillar at the border thereof to the Lord.
“And it shall be for a sign and for a witness unto the Lord of hosts in the land of Egypt: for they shall cry unto the Lord because of the oppressors, and he shall send them a saviour, and a great one, and he shall deliver them.” Isaiah 19:19-20
“The stone the builders rejected has become the cornerstone;” Psalm 118:22
“So this is what the Sovereign LORD says: “See, I lay a stone in Zion, a tested stone, a precious cornerstone for a sure foundation; the one who relies on it will never be stricken with panic.” Isaiah 28:16
“Jesus said to them, “Have you never read in the Scriptures: “’The stone the builders rejected has become the cornerstone; the Lord has done this, and it is marvelous in our eyes’?” Matthew 21:42
“This is the stone which was set at nought of you builders, which is become the head of the corner.” Acts 4:11
“Nor were slaves used to build them - those that worked on the complex were well paid, fed, and cared for - it was an honor to work on them.†See Lehner, Hawass et al.
"... information didn't include the purpose of the pyramids?" No. No one know the answer as to the purpose of the pyramids at Giza. It is not information as in something written down, but rather a tracing of archaeological clues, designs and so on - too much to elaborate on here.
See: Egyptian Dawn
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Maybe you should check out some actual research. Here is a good article to start with. These are papyruses found a few years ago that are from the time of the actual building projects in Giza.
I think if I had ONE guess as to what they REALLY were used for, with total disregard for what the Bible deniers say; I would have to say they were built by the Nephalim of Genesis 6, and were used in some way for communication or navigation.
I have studied a fair amount about the Nephalim (Giant hybrids) and learned there are evidences of their activity and building projects, etc., all over the planet.
I believe the Lord will show us a video of the entire history of the planet some day. So I’ll just remain calm and wait.
Thanks.
Whatevvr. Sparkplug! ;-)
But theys' is radioactivity in them same sedimentary layers where the "event" occurred.
And here's sumthing else you can shine your lite on:
So is the Taj Mahal and many other mausoleums.
Good Lord! The Smithsonian is a poorly written, liberal piece of c—p. I read that article - mostly disingenuous. They make a big deal of docks, but show only one small dock image while going on with the party line, showing many images which are not relevant, giving short shift to the papyruses guy.
There is no evidence that the Pyramids at Giza were built at any particular time, but there is evidence that they may have been repaired and re-purposed at the time the papyruses were written. Repair and re-purpose of older monuments was common in Old Egypt, how depended who was pharaoh and who was the god ascendant.
The whole timeline presented is based on the two KINGS LIST - the main one is a fake and the other a poor copy. No other dates or modern dating methods are allowed in standard Egyptology. This is the reason the guy with the papyruses wants to stay out of the dating Giza fray.
And see the links at 91 for another opinion by an accredited Egyptian Archaeologist and Science Historian who actually looked at stuff the other guys (the authoritarian traditionalists) - Lehner, Hwass et al - ignore.
Musings of a peasant class.
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