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To: Perdogg; fieldmarshaldj; Impy; GOPsterinMA

>> Spectre is bad. Not as Bad as Die Another Day. <<

Die Another Day is over the top and ridiculous, but has a “so bad its good” quality for me. And I LIKED the opening title sequence (though Madonna’s techno theme was a weird fit for a Bond movie). Integrating Bond’s months of torture by the North Koreans was clever to do for the credits sequence, and was one of the few times the credits advanced the story along.

Incidentally, I haven’t seen Spectre and won’t watch until its out on DVD, but I checked out the theme song on youtube out of curiosity. If that’s anything to go by, its the worst of the Craig themes. And the three previous movies (Casino Royale, Quantum of Solace, and Skyfall) have themes that reflect the quality of the movie overall:

Casino Royale had one of the coolest openings in Bond history (LOVED how they integrated the famous “gun barrel intro” INTO the credits themselves, to show Bond getting his 00 license) and the song was great and the visuals themselves were the most “tradition Bond” element of Craig’s un-Bondish reboot. I pity the fact Timothy Dalton never got to appear in this.
Casino Royale
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BD0uP25yxl8

Quantum had an somewhat annoying but passable opening song, but the music didn’t feel “James Bond-ish” at all. And the credit visuals themselves were even worse... most of it is throwing CGI sand at the camera. Big step down after CR.
Quantum of Solace
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMXT3aJxH_A

Skyfall had a great intro, the BEST of the four Daniel Craig theme songs (it won an Oscar and FINALLY used the traditional Bond element of intregrating the film’s title into the song’s chorus) and some very neat symbolic visuals.
Skyfall
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4gdhsVKTcs

Specter... well... I can’t even finish half the music video. This song is literally putting me to sleep, and I don’t know what the movie credits are like, but the music video has dour Daniel Craig standing around at a funeral, doing nothing.
Spectre
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jzDnsjYv9A


48 posted on 11/07/2015 12:29:18 AM PST by BillyBoy (Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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To: BillyBoy

Watching films in the theater today is an exercise in how fast one wants to completely lose their hearing. I take it that is one of the reasons you watch the films on DVD instead (that and avoid the moron/thug element at the theater).

I think I went on the opening day for “The Living Daylights”, but at a late night showing (I can’t believe that was 28 years ago). The crowd went nuts, jumping out of their seats hooting and hollering. But that was at least a good Bond film (and the last to be filmed and take place in Eastern Europe before the fall of the Berlin Wall). LTK, of course, was set in Florida and Mexico.


49 posted on 11/07/2015 1:23:24 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: BillyBoy; Perdogg

I watched the Spectre music video. It’s not bad, it has a bit of a Barryesque feel to it (the lyrics are unmemorable). But from the clip, it’s apparent Craig looks utterly miserable (so much so that even non-Craig fans like me want to give the poor bloke a hug). That’s not a recipe for a good JB film.


50 posted on 11/07/2015 1:33:10 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: BillyBoy; Perdogg; fieldmarshaldj; Impy

Die Another Day wasthisclose to being classified as a “Fantasy” film.


52 posted on 11/07/2015 6:05:32 AM PST by GOPsterinMA (I'm with Steve McQueen: I live my life for myself and answer to nobody.)
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To: BillyBoy; Perdogg; fieldmarshaldj; GOPsterinMA
Die Another Day is over the top and ridiculous, but has a “so bad its good” quality for me.

I agree. After Craig's stylistic 180 my appreciation of it has grown.

I liked the last 4 songs, not digging this Spectre Song. Eh.

Speaking of the Gun barrel sequence, it's finally back at the start of the movie I hear, after inexplicably being at the end in the last 2.

53 posted on 11/07/2015 11:24:17 AM PST by Impy (They pull a knife, you pull a gun. That's the CHICAGO WAY, and that's how you beat the rats!)
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To: BillyBoy; Perdogg; fieldmarshaldj; Impy

Of interest:

https://www.yahoo.com/movies/s/spectre-why-daniel-craig-stupid-james-bond-201224785.html


59 posted on 11/09/2015 6:00:56 PM PST by GOPsterinMA (I'm with Steve McQueen: I live my life for myself and answer to nobody.)
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